TC Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='sanveer' timestamp='1351035003' post='20204'] "4K and 50Mbps422" ? Is that enough Mbps, for 4k? [/quote] Short answer: no. I don't understand why they are teasing us with 50Mbps 422 as a *feature* for a cinema camera. The RED Epic can deliver data rates of up to 2.2Gbps. The Blackmagic Cinema Camera generates 1.1Gbps when recording raw. The RED Scarlet can deliver up to 440Mbps. It's 2012, not 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 [quote name='sanveer' timestamp='1351035003' post='20204'] "4K and 50Mbps422" ? Is that enough Mbps, for 4k? [/quote] 4K [size=6]and [/size] 50 Mbps422 it didn't say 4k with 50 Mbps...so probably an option to have [b]1080p[/b] with 50 Mbps422? Another week and the official release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 From [url="http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/"]http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/[/url] [url="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?87222-Worthy-competitor-for-the-EPIC/page5"]Matt Ryan[/url] unveiled some details about the new Sony PL mount F55 camera: “[i]The New [url="http://www.amazon.ca/s?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=sony%20camera"]sony camera[/url] is the F5 ($22-$25,000 range)! They are skipping the 4 model number and going to 5…They are aiming for the C300/500/Scarlet market with this.[/i] [i]Compression Schemes:[/i] [i]50 Mbps XDCam @ 422[/i] [i]80 Mbps XAVCHD @ 422[/i] [i]120 Mbps iframe compressed not XD Cam[/i] [i]220 Mbps “SR†@ 422 (only on new “SxS Raw+†Memory cards…. these are new!)[/i] [i]You can only record the full 4k frame with the R5 SR Recorder, otherwise you will record windowed footage.[/i] [i]120 frames per second in HD (1080), codec: XAVCHD[/i] [i]No on board 4K. Must use R5 recorder using a NEW type of [url="http://www.amazon.ca/s?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=memory%20card"]memory card[/url] to record 4K and/or RAW.[/i] [i]R5 Recorder Suggested Price at the moment is $19,000! Not to mention the recording media. May change before the release.[/i] [i]There is also an F55 4K camera coming too, and that is what Sony is calling the direct competitor to the Epic. They think the Epic is way behind the F65…Seriously…[/i] [i]They will also be announcing a new set of lenses much better than their previous ones and at a t2.0 (set of 6 made by a famous lens company exclusively for Sony)…[/i] [i]That’s all the info I have for now…â€[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 [url="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?87222-Worthy-competitor-for-the-EPIC/page5"]http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?87222-Worthy-competitor-for-the-EPIC/page5[/url] Matt Ryan is from the Red forum. So who knows if this info is accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Register online. [url="http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/article/thenewf?CMP=TWITTER"]http://www.sony.co.uk/pro/article/thenewf?CMP=TWITTER[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 CVP deposit is 600 quid including VAT. That's not a huge deposit, so perhaps we're talking around 10,000 pounds or so. Likely to be more than FS700 I'd've thought, unless they want to pitch it as a different [i]type [/i]of camera, being CineAlta and all, in which case price may fall closer. Also since Sony are partnered with Carl Zeiss, you can bet the new lenses are a set of T2 Carl Zeiss primes along a similar line to the Zeiss CP2s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Jgharding, Good point. Interesting discussion on the Red forum. Matt Ryan says he was at the demo and no NDA signed by him. [url="http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?87222-Worthy-competitor-for-the-EPIC/page5"]http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?87222-Worthy-competitor-for-the-EPIC/page5[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Yep. Tuesday. :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 [url="http://cinescopophilia.com/xavc-is-the-new-sony-recording-format-for-thenewf-camera/#axzz2AQWt7xrG"]http://cinescopophilia.com/xavc-is-the-new-sony-recording-format-for-thenewf-camera/#axzz2AQWt7xrG[/url] Another piece of the Sony meal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 Okay People... [size=6][b]Sony has gone all out. Game changer... [/b][/size] [url="https://twitter.com/mskogstrom/status/261776835979923456"]https://twitter.com/mskogstrom/status/261776835979923456[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galenb Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 To tell you the truth, I don't see how this could be a "Game changer." if it did all that's it's claimed to do and sold for $3000 (hell, even %5000-$10,000) then yes, that would be a game changer. Will it be better then a Scarlet or C300? I'm sure it will but at $20,000 it had better be. And really, I think this just underscores the great challenge that the BMCC has cast out there into the industry. In my mind, a game changer would be one that offers high-end features at a lower price point, bringing pro features to people who would not normally be able to afford them. If you're going to call it a game changer and charge $20,000 for it, it had better have features that blow away the competition. To me, the only "Game changer" I've seen is the BMCC. Even with all it's flaws, lens mount, sensor size, internal battery, etc., it's still so much more compelling to me then any other camera out there right now because it does what no other camera can do at $3000 by a long shot. KarimNassar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 27, 2012 Author Share Posted October 27, 2012 More teasing...SLog2 on the new camera... [url="http://cinescopophilia.com/s-log2-on-the-sony-thenewf-camera/#ixzz2ASLKP3FZ"]http://cinescopophilia.com/s-log2-on-the-sony-thenewf-camera/#ixzz2ASLKP3FZ[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 So who here thinks with the recent price drop in Epics, and the fact that this model is skipping the "4", it's a 5k cam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Skipping the 4 probably has more to do with [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraphobia]Tetraphobia[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmMan Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 [b]Official talk from Sony...[/b] - Protecting the customer ROI is a major part of our strategy [url="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TheNewF&src=hash"][s]#[/s][b]TheNewF[/b][/url] - Very big update for our Super35mm web site, going live OCT 30th [url="http://t.co/cQlAaUJy"]http://www.sony.com/35mm [/url] [url="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TheNewF&src=hash"][s]#[/s][b]TheNewF[/b][/url] - Rest assured you will not be dissapppointed - Those few that have seen, and know the features, their reaction is [url="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GameChanger&src=hash"][s]#[/s][b]GameChanger[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TheNewF&src=hash"][s]#[/s][b]TheNewF[/b][/url] - [url="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23TheNewF&src=hash"][s]#[/s][b]TheNewF[/b][/url] [color=#ff0000][u][b]pricing has NOT been made known[/b][/u][/color]. Speculation thus far is interesting but exact specs revealed on Oct 30 [url="http://t.co/fnYc91n3"]http://bit.ly/TheNewFContact [/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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