User Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Any news on this yet?Edit:Actually, I just spoke with one of the top private dealers of Sony products here in Berlin. He told me that they have sold more than 80 A7rii cameras and he has not received one report of over heating. He went on to say that he feels that this is some kind of 'internet forum' issue. So yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuck Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Not sure about the A7Sii but the "top private dealer" you spoke to is wrong. The A7Rii will overheat but only with extended video recording in UHD. I own one and I would challenge anyone to find a single unit that doesn't overheat. Having said this, most users won't notice it because either they use the camera for stills or record shorter video clips. Our unit overheats in 80°f weather on average at around 25 mins.. We do extended interviews and like the A7Rii for its small size and versatility in the field when we don't want to carry our FS7s. We use a Shogun which eliminates both the overheating issue and the recording time limit restriction. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Thank you Knuck. Good to know. It did however sound like he believed what he was telling me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Here they claim no overheating (but did not test in the same conditions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted October 16, 2015 Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2015 Any news on this yet?Edit:Actually, I just spoke with one of the top private dealers of Sony products here in Berlin. He told me that they have sold more than 80 A7rii cameras and he has not received one report of over heating. He went on to say that he feels that this is some kind of 'internet forum' issue. So yeah.12MP sensor probably runs cooler than 42MP monster, but will find out sooner rather than later as I am down at the Sony store in Berlin tomorrow to buy the A7S II.If anyone is doing same, let me know and we shall meet & chat! User 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Will be very much interested to see how it compares to the A7S and A7R II (low light, sharpness, rolling shutter and AF)I'm not sure I'm ready to get rid of my NX1 yet...!Thanks for the info Andrew ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 This is THE question. If the a7s II is as unreliable as the A7rII in 4K recording with overheating, it'll kill the camera.If it is reliable, it's going to be a king, especially with the significantly improved colour science Sony put in the A7rII and their newest models vs the A7s yellow/green S-Log2 horridness, which was the only deal breaker for me not getting one my own or shooting it seriously.Don't overheat + take the A7r II/RX100IV colour science = Be a brilliant f#$&&ing FF camera... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 16, 2015 Super Members Share Posted October 16, 2015 It came in stock in Sweden today. Not for me but a heads up to other swedes here. BrorSvensson and Francois Tornier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 They pulled a "Reverse Blackmagic" Xavier Plagaro Mussard and Don Kotlos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francois Tornier Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 It came in stock in Sweden today. Not for me but a heads up to other swedes here.Hej Mattias - do you know in what store? I'm hoping to get a model really soon in Stockholm. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 16, 2015 Super Members Share Posted October 16, 2015 Hej Mattias - do you know in what store? I'm hoping to get a model really soon in Stockholm. ThanksJapan Photo on Flemingsgatan says they have one. "Hang on the lock" tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrorSvensson Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Apparently the 1080p 120fps is a 2.2x (!) crop, really really dissapointed in that. I was hoping for some rx10/100 level slow mo in this thing. Lets hope the quality is atleast decent. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Apparently the 1080p 120fps is a 2.2x (!) crop, really really dissapointed in that. I was hoping for some rx10/100 level slow mo in this thing. Lets hope the quality is atleast decent.The RX10 sensor is 1" so the 2.2 crop will actually be wider won't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrorSvensson Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The RX10 sensor is 1" so the 2.2 crop will actually be wider won't it?true but the lenses on the a7 series are not design for such a heavy crop compared to the lens on the rx 10/100 that is made for that kind of crop, it will be close to impossible to get an ultra wide on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Technically not true, you could put wide m4/3 glass on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuck Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Here they claim no overheating (but did not test in the same conditions) Don, the video you attached is Tony Northrop's first video. He took the camera to Machu Picchu and posted a second video where he comments on the overheating issues. Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxxKAJtBnhA. Hopefully the smaller sensor on the A7Sii will not have this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 This is THE question. If the a7s II is as unreliable as the A7rII in 4K recording with overheating, it'll kill the camera.If it is reliable, it's going to be a king, especially with the significantly improved colour science Sony put in the A7rII and their newest models vs the A7s yellow/green S-Log2 horridness, which was the only deal breaker for me not getting one my own or shooting it seriously.Don't overheat + take the A7r II/RX100IV colour science = Be a brilliant f#$&&ing FF camera..."Color science" is a made up term, no one really knows what it means.It certainly has nothing to do with science. Art in the eyes of the beholder maybe, but science, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmcindie Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 "Color science" is a made up term, no one really knows what it means.I think we all know what it means. It is ... wait for it... The science of color!The science of color is sometimes called chromatics, colorimetry, or simply color science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I tink what Tugela means is that what we call "science" is just a subjective feeling we have toward the color rendering of a sensor/camera - and our feeling isn't always connected to the scientific exactitude of this "science" but more about a "color style" that we appreciate or not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 12MP sensor probably runs cooler than 42MP monster, but will find out sooner rather than later as I am down at the Sony store in Berlin tomorrow to buy the A7S II.If anyone is doing same, let me know and we shall meet & chat!Damn, was confirming the country's beer reinheitsgebot last night so I'm off to a late start. I look forward to your comments and insights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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