ricardo_sousa11 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Hey, Lately I've been wanting to get a Full-Frame camera, mainly for stills, but would appreciate if it could work decently for Video as well. I usually work with the NX1 for video, and for pictures I borrow a Nikon D800, which is great ! However, I want to have my own Full Frame sensor, so I dont have to bug him everytime I want to take some pictures. At first I was looking at the Sony a7, which goes around 800€ on Ebay, or the 5D Mark 2 which also goes around 800€ on ebay....now Im confused, what are your recomendations ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxotics Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 There's no easy solution. I've lately standardized on the Sony A7 because my eyes are old and I like the EVF, focus zoom, small size. However, with the 5DII I'd get faster menus, autofocus, ETTL flash, Magic Lantern RAW, no worries with Tilt-shift lenses, plus great Canon lenses to choose from.(not to mention a practically free 50mm, nifty-fifty). If you're going to use manual-focus glass, I'd go with the A7 with EVFIf you need fast auto-focus for weddings, events, I'd go with the 5D2 There's a lot of Canon and Nikon bashing on this focus from people who don't take stills for a living The best solution is to steal your friends D800 !!! That's a camera! Another idea is to get a D600, though its video is horrible. If you can't afford lenses, get the camera that will work with your friends lenses so you both have options! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Yes factor in lenses, with AF/IS (Native). I'd choose the 5D in a hearbeat. Better colours, better jpegs, much better video (raw), optical viewfinder, stronger body, better menus and buttons, Tons of ML features, much cheaper native lenses, much much longer battery. A7 has the EVF, size, and tiltable LCD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Im leaning more towards the 5DM2 as well, since I already have some Canon Glass, might make that jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Ashcraft Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Check out the Canon 6D as well! Comparable performance all around to the 5D2 but better low light performance. Not sure how well the ML Raw is implemented with the 6D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrorSvensson Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 yea canon 5d mark ii, just remember that there are no higher than 30fps framerates in video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 yea canon 5d mark ii, just remember that there are no higher than 30fps framerates in video.Thats no problem, since the NX1 has that covered, and would still be my main camera.I love the full frame aesthetic in Video, so matching it with the NX1 would be killer setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrorSvensson Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Thats no problem, since the NX1 has that covered, and would still be my main camera.I love the full frame aesthetic in Video, so matching it with the NX1 would be killer setup.Are you gonna adapt lenses or use native? If you are going to adapt lenses get the sony a7/a7r, its a way better sensor but auto focus is horrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The d800 is going pretty damn cheap these days, it's the reason why I haven't sold mine (too good for the money they give you). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 The d800 is going pretty damn cheap these days, it's the reason why I haven't sold mine (too good for the money they give you).I live in Portugal, its pretty expensive for our wage (around 3-4 times), unfortunately Idk if ill use native lenses yet, though having decent AF would be good for stills, even though I probably wont use it for "jobs". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michal Gajdoš Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 5dii inferior sensor, ML raw send you with card way more than 800euros, OVF, huge body, AF not at all stellar. no way i would go for that. A7 all the way if were talking pictures, d750 if video IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I live in Portugal, its pretty expensive for our wage (around 3-4 times), unfortunately Idk if ill use native lenses yet, though having decent AF would be good for stills, even though I probably wont use it for "jobs".I have seen d800 on ebay going for 900-1000€, I live in Spain and people don't earn 250-300€/month (maybe one of these shitty internships), I don't think it's different in portugal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 It's more expensive than some of these other options, but it sounds like what you want is a used D750. The autofocus is a night and day improvement over the 5DII, it's tops in DR and low light, and the video is excellent. The others all seem like pronounced compromises on either the video or the stills side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted November 11, 2015 Super Members Share Posted November 11, 2015 5dii inferior sensor, ML raw send you with card way more than 800euros, OVF, huge body, AF not at all stellar. no way i would go for that. A7 all the way if were talking pictures, d750 if videoA 5dii can be had for €500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 If you didnt already have Canon glass I would recommend the D600 since it has a superior image sensor to the 5D2. Better DR, low light, etc. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 A 5dii can be had for €500.Where ?! I'd kill for a 5Dii for 500€....but I keep finding them for 700-900€.Idk where you guys get cameras for that price, there must be some trick, a friend of mine got the D800 recently for 1300€ and it was a great deal (usually they are around 1500€). Thats ~3x min wage, which is 496€ I believe. Where do you guys search for gear ? I search around ebay..I can get a Nikon, but isnt it terrible for video ? Michal Gajdoš 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 wouldn't like speedboosting an nex camera probably be the cheapest option and have decent video? maybe not much cheaper if you have a good speedbooster on it, plus no match for 5D raw or any sort of autofocus or ergonomics, but just a thought tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Where ?! I'd kill for a 5Dii for 500€....but I keep finding them for 700-900€.Idk where you guys get cameras for that price, there must be some trick, a friend of mine got the D800 recently for 1300€ and it was a great deal (usually they are around 1500€). Thats ~3x min wage, which is 496€ I believe. Where do you guys search for gear ? I search around ebay..I can get a Nikon, but isnt it terrible for video ?Depends on what kind of video you want to do. The d800 is as bad for video as the canon 5d mkii, maybe slightly better in resolution and a little bit worse in highlight rolloff and "motion cadence".I think if you just want the fullframe look, get a speedbooster on some mirrorless aps-c camera.This would be the cheapest option, no AF.http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/18504-canon-eos-m-focal-reducer-fullframe-raw-for-300/ tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 wouldn't like speedboosting an nex camera probably be the cheapest option and have decent video? maybe not much cheaper if you have a good speedbooster on it, plus no match for 5D raw or any sort of autofocus or ergonomics, but just a thoughtI think if you just want the fullframe look, get a speedbooster on some mirrorless aps-c camera.This would be the cheapest option, no AF.http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/18504-canon-eos-m-focal-reducer-fullframe-raw-for-300/I was about to make these very same suggestions. The only drawback to this path for the OP is that he is evidently already significantly invested in Canon glass (no aperture control on lens). So, unless there is an option for a powered EF speed booster that enables aperture control, OP would probably have to get/rent new lenses (and sell his Canon lenses). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 Depends on what kind of video you want to do. The d800 is as bad for video as the canon 5d mkii, maybe slightly better in resolution and a little bit worse in highlight rolloff and "motion cadence".I think if you just want the fullframe look, get a speedbooster on some mirrorless aps-c camera.This would be the cheapest option, no AF.http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/18504-canon-eos-m-focal-reducer-fullframe-raw-for-300/I was refering to the D600 Video, the D800 video is quite pleasant to work with.If I could get a D800 for cheap, Id totally get it. Getting an that combo, isnt suitable, I do want some sort of AF, and aperture control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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