Jonesy Jones Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Yah. These images are so sweet. This camera is going to be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 On January 22, 2016 at 3:47 AM, HelsinkiZim said: We forget that these days. These cameras are all powerful tools. We dwell in minutiae. Certainly pros need to work in the specialized minutiae and hone their craft, but I do think it's a bit silly when a naive hobbyist with a t2i tries to shoot raw with expensive lenses, and then attempts to apply advanced LUT's to footage --when they can't even yet figure out how to point a light in a meaningful way, frame an interesting composition, or structure a story with any compelling cohesion. I guess it's just easier to be technical than creative. Well, I don't 'guess' in my case, anyway. I know it is for a fact. Phil A and HelsinkiZim 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphicnatured Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Jonesy Jones said: Yah. These images are so sweet. This camera is going to be awesome. I was pretty out on it, but I'm starting to think this too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphicnatured Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 I know most of you know this, but those who don't, this old post on BMCuser is blowing up with some pretty exciting new images from the 4.6k for the past few days. It was dead for some time, but seems like every few hours there are some new gems and it's looking really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Emery Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 All fears are starting to dissipate... colors, DR, decent low light/ noise. It all looks spot on... http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?15520-Brief-thoughts-and-a-bit-of-footage-from-the-URSA-Mini-4-6K/page208 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taranis Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 5 hours ago, John Emery said: All fears are starting to dissipate... colors, DR, decent low light/ noise. It all looks spot on... http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?15520-Brief-thoughts-and-a-bit-of-footage-from-the-URSA-Mini-4-6K/page208 I registered a few days ago on bmcuser just to watch these new images. Apparenty it takes like a week to get activated, until then you can't see them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Hook is the man. His original 4.6K footage was still the best until he released these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphicnatured Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 On February 13, 2016 at 3:55 AM, AaronChicago said: Hook is the man. His original 4.6K footage was still the best until he released these. Yeah, I'm very impressed with his images this past week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphicnatured Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 TheRenaissanceMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphicnatured Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 ^^^ pass:neptune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted March 1, 2016 Super Members Share Posted March 1, 2016 That looked very very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Mattias Burling said: That looked very very nice. Sure, but somehow not so filmic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted March 1, 2016 Super Members Share Posted March 1, 2016 29 minutes ago, DBounce said: Sure, but somehow not so filmic. It shoots Raw so you can make it look pretty much anyway you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Mattias Burling said: It shoots Raw so you can make it look pretty much anyway you want. No so sure about that. I believe it's more to do with motion than color or grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 I am also not sure what DBounce means, but I guess it must have to do with the fact (see description) that this was recorded in 60fps, which, if played back at this speed or "only" in 30fps, never looks filmic but (what's the correct english term?) videoish. See the discussions on The Hobbit - An Unexpected Stinker. This image looks clean, almost cleansed, as if Neat had been applied. Clearly the darker version is more pleasing because of the highlight clipping in the brighter one. On film, the random positions of the crystals would have rendered a soft roll-off. So perhaps Julian graded on a 10-bit monitor and couldn't judge how this would look on 8-bit Vimeo (the information was there, he could have and should have used another curve). One also can apply one of Tiffens excellent software ProMist (EDIT: or rather White Diffusion?, there are hundreds of useful tools) filters, free trial without watermark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted March 1, 2016 Super Members Share Posted March 1, 2016 Yeah motion doesn't get much more filmic than Global Shutter imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 You could shoot that scene with film and it wouldn't look that filmic, as there is no camera movement, filmic composition or sound. DR and colour speak for themselves though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted March 1, 2016 Super Members Share Posted March 1, 2016 The word filmic to me has only to do with the visual characteristics of film and film cameras. So colors, grain, DR, subject motion/shutter. Camera movement, audio, lights, composition, actors, etc, that try to look Holywood I file under cinematic. mercer, andrgl and TheRenaissanceMan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Yea, you are right... I think that scene, shot on film, would not look much different though. He shot it in 60p, so probably has 1/120th shutter... Might explain the look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy Jones Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 If you haven't seen this... check it. I just don't see what people are not seeing. I personally don't think a Red or Alexa would have looked any better. There are amazing things coming from this camera. As I've said, this sensor is going to change the world, ultimate playing field leveler. Password 'ursa' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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