nougat Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Adobe Premiere Pro CC was updated today to support H.265 files I imported several NX1 H.265 clips directly into Premiere and they play and edit beautifully without any glitches or lag. I even tried multiple transitions and LUTs on my clips and it slowed it down a little, but still no problem editing.I have a Windows 10 PC, I7-4770K, 16GB ram, GTX970 4GB, separate SSD system, work and render drives.Adobe After Effects and Media Encoder were also updated to support H.265.Thank you and great job Adobe! Cinegain, Marco Tecno, Santiago de la Rosa and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanebrutal Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Big news for us nx1 users indeed! Dare I say the native h.265 files look better/more detailed than the transcoded ones? I'll have to do a side by side comparison. But wow yeah these files play super smooth and edit perfectly on my system. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Thank you for the update.What do you mean by "eperate SSD system"? Internal SSD that are used only for Premiere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nougat Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 Thank you for the update.What do you mean by "seperate SSD system"? Internal SSD that are used only for Premiere? I have 1 SSD as my system drive, 2 SSDs in a raid 0 array for my working files (video clips ) and a fourth SSD as my render drive. Update: Editing is still silky smooth, but rendering in HEVC with the highest settings going to take ~23 hours to render a 23 minute sequence. Yikes! I will play around with other render options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 The Nvidia GTX 960 has a dedicated H.265 hardware encoder / decoder, I wonder if it helps vs the GTX 970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nougat Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 The Nvidia GTX 960 has a dedicated H.265 hardware encoder / decoder, I wonder if it helps vs the GTX 970.I think it probably would be faster encoding if Premiere can use the hardware encoder properly. Sadly, I bought the GTX 970 just before they released the GTX 960.Update 2: I changed the render settings to "good" instead of "highest" and it cut the render time to ~50 minutes for the same 23 minute sequence. liork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TILT Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Here is a comparison of HEVC vs Prores I did an hour ago. To me banding is still less apparent in Prores but for most projects HEVC will be my choice for saving space on my HDs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOzJntHIn5U liork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Great news. I had an AMD Fury which should support h.265 in hw. I'll test later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Omg finally ! Considering I have a full wedding to edit and havent still converted, this is huge news ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Update: Editing is still silky smooth, but rendering in HEVC with the highest settings going to take ~23 hours to render a 23 minute sequence. Yikes! I will play around with other render options. How much time does it take on your computer to render this 23 minutes video to 4K H.264 MP4 in 50Mbps? Mat Mayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Since I have a limited data plan at home, where can I find the update file to be downloaded alone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Playback is smoother than with 4K ProRes even with adjustments. This is amazing. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Playback is smoother than with 4K ProRes even with adjustments. This is amazing.how is your computer configured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX1user Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Here is a comparison of HEVC vs Prores I did an hour ago. To me banding is still less apparent in Prores but for most projects HEVC will be my choice for saving space on my HDs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOzJntHIn5UThanks for doing that! You just saved me the trouble. It's interesting that there's a little less banning in ProRes, but the colors look bettering HEVC. Is your footage form an NX1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 how is your computer configured? Windows 8.1SDD Work driveIntel i7-5820K @3.30Ghz16 gb RAMNvidia GTX 960 4gb (might be the h265 chip on this card) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santiago de la Rosa Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Great news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX1user Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Playback is as smooth as ProRes on my early 2015 iMac 5K. Getting rid of all my "4K H.265 converted to 4K ProRes" files was like Adobe buying me a hard drive!Here's a comparison straight out of my NX1 with nothing adjusted or corrected, screen shots from a 4K file in Premiere Pro. I used Wondershare Video Converter to get the ProRes file.After uploading this, the difference isn't as clear as on my monitor. I guess the forum compresses the file or something. But the unconverted H.265 file is much closer to the colors in real life. The converted file has a slight pink tint to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekhar Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Playback actually seems smoother with H.265 than with ProRes (probably due to easier disk reads). However, H.265 levels are off and is losing quite a bit of shadow detail with correction (see below) compared to ProRes. Also, SpeedGrade doesn't seem to support it yet, so trying to grade Premiere Pro projects doesn't work...yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Just installed it on my 2015 mbp. All is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Installed and quickly tried it with a clip. Flawless. I'll soon try with a grading routine to see how it handles it. The fury is a very powerful card, btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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