Andy Welch Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 @AndrewWould you please upload an example of the 10bit codec? Would love to see how it performs in After Effects and Premiere... Thank you!Yes, I'll do it in the morning. I'll record 1080p 10-bit 4:2:2 XAVC-L in camera as well as ProResHQ on the Shogun so you can compare and contrast. I'll also provide clips of the higher frame rate 1080 modes. As far as the FS5 goes, the good news is that Sony seems to have included a 150mbps bit rate for 8-bit 4:2:2 UHD in the LongGOP standard, so it's possible that it's just a matter of turning it on in firmware. Also, according to a year old paper, they have two more LongGOP UHD modes to be implemented in the "future". Specifically, 140mbps and 200mbps for 10-bit 4:2:2 UHD. http://www.xavc-info.org/xavc/share/data/XAVC_Naming_per_OperatingPoints.pdfActually, I think that the XAVC QFHD Long 150 mode applies only to 50/60 fps. Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted January 5, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted January 5, 2016 Here's the 4K and 10bit 1080pDrop it into Premiere and give it a grade. Enjoy!http://we.tl/yQO2ZM4HdA Actually, I think that the XAVC QFHD Long 150 mode applies only to 50/60 fps. Bummer. Doesn't the FS7 already use that flavour of XAVC?I remember once the GH2 shot H.264 at nearly 150 Mbit/s long GOP. What took Sony so long to bring it to a pro camera? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Caldwell Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Any chance there will be a 4:3 2880x2160 recording mode for anamorphic, or will cropping on post be the solution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted January 5, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted January 5, 2016 Any chance there will be a 4:3 2880x2160 recording mode for anamorphic, or will cropping on post be the solution?Wasn't in the info they gave me, but we can sure try asking for it!Panasonic certainly listened to us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Welch Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Doesn't the FS7 already use that flavour of XAVC?I remember once the GH2 shot H.264 at nearly 150 Mbit/s long GOP. What took Sony so long to bring it to a pro camera? Alister Chapman's response to the FS5 issues was very disappointing. He basically said shifted the blame to FS5 owners, saying that we expected too much. His argument- You knew the bit rate was low, you knew the bit depth was low, you knew that shooting at higher gain levels would add noise. You should have known that all three of those things together would add up to poor quality footage. Buyer beware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarimNassar Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 The electronic variable ND is amazing, even more so with the future auto mode. Couldn't get any better.I have mixed feelings about the future compressed raw update though.It could finally deliver the image quality you would expect to get in 2016, but then it adds thousands of dollars for the external recorder + ssds to the already far from cheap price.And it hurts the lightweight compact ergonomics of the camera which is one of the major selling points to begin with.Fixing the internal quality codecs should be their first priority imo. Keeping an eye on this camera will see how it works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmizer Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Then already talking about FS5 mark 2, raw output already installed !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshjones_ctva Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Andrew, have you tried grading in Davinci or any other programs besides priemere? I've had problems with Adobe PP in the past making some footage much more blocky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 FS5 will be getting internal RAW as well, not just external ones, wondering whats the sdcard requirement for that Don Kotlos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 FS5 will be getting internal RAW as well, not just external ones, wondering whats the sdcard requirement for thatI assume that will be for HD. But even that will be amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I hope there's an option for splitting the recording to both cards, to enable >30p in HD, or even 4K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Internal raw could be amazing, please don't mess this up, Sony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 No internal raw. Simultaneous video to sd and external raw. Mitch Gross of cd is the source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Well, in that case I hope Sound Devices get in on the FS Raw party, as I can't see using anything bigger than the Pix-E5 with the FS5 without totally sacrificing the size/weight of the FS5. An O7Q is waaayyy too big for the FS5 for my purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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