Matt Kieley Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I recently was looking for a new camera, and I, too, re-discovered a forgotten camera. It produces a truly analog, organic look. I got a Sony Handycam Pro Hi8 camera, with CCD sensor!and S-Video output! Just kidding, I got a BMPCC. Disclaimer: I'm not making fun of anyone, I just found that old broken camera buried in a box and couldn't resist the dumb joke. IronFilm, Phil A, tellure and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Disclaimer: I'm not making fun of anyone, I just found that old broken camera buried in a box and couldn't resist the dumb joke.Does it work? I need a Hi-8 device for an archiving project... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kieley Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Does it work? I need a Hi-8 device for an archiving project...Nope. It started refusing to turn on years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volker Schmidt Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Last week I made a very quick test with my 5dmk2 MLraw and a slider.Once again very pleased with the image, but the Clip in Vimeo is a bit jerky what I haven´t noticed before... (before uploading).So, I would like to find out where in the process it occurs.But the cinematic feel is nice, I find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volker Schmidt Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Propably it is the Computer on which I´m sitting at the moment:) Definetly jerky in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Last week I made a very quick test with my 5dmk2 MLraw and a slider.Once again very pleased with the image, but the Clip in Vimeo is a bit jerky what I haven´t noticed before... (before uploading).So, I would like to find out where in the process it occurs.But the cinematic feel is nice, I find. good God that shit looks AMAZING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 That is the actors reaction when he sees cheeseburgers in the seating arrangement. Or perhaps he has seen too much test footage and is affected by it UNLIKE SOMEBODY *cough* *cough* Reid *cough* *cough*?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volker Schmidt Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Here, how the first shot looks with less grading and without additional grain.I find it very impressive for a 7 years old camera at ISO 1600.(Sorry Zach, the weaknesses of the script are unfortunately also be seen here:). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volker Schmidt Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Everything is fine, I had my fun, I was teasing ya too:). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak_heri Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 I really like those quick shots VolkerWhat's interesting for RAW is that it's also possible to use other grading tools such as Lightroom. It opens up a lot of possibilities. There are lots of looks out there (Fuji Astia, Velvia, Kodak portra etc.) that were made for still cameras and you can then export as LUTs in Resolve Volker Schmidt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Constantino Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 This whole 5D Mark II raw got my attention because of how cheap you can get a 5D these days.Considering that I might give it a shot now but first I could use some help. How does the image quality stands against a Lumix GH3? (which I own but I miss that dreamy look from FF and APS-C sensors) And how much more "gradable"(?) it is?Is it really worth the VAF filter? (I know what it does but is the moiré really that bad?)When shooting RAW can you shoot 720p 60fps? How do you do you slow-mo shots?Is audio still a problem? Or is it worked out?When buying a second hand camera (I never understood this one) is it better to have less shutter counts or less video made? I think this is all for now!Thanks in advance and great shots Volker, especially the ones testing the Minoltas outdoors (ugh I wish I knew how to change the mount). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrorSvensson Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 This whole 5D Mark II raw got my attention because of how cheap you can get a 5D these days.Considering that I might give it a shot now but first I could use some help. How does the image quality stands against a Lumix GH3? (which I own but I miss that dreamy look from FF and APS-C sensors) And how much more "gradable"(?) it is?Its a very different image, not as sharp and "perfect" image as on the gh3. Its a very natural and filmic image. Grading raw vs avchd is two different worlds.Is it really worth the VAF filter? (I know what it does but is the moiré really that bad?)-When shooting RAW can you shoot 720p 60fps? How do you do you slow-mo shots?No slow mo on the mark ii, thats only for the 7d and mark iiiIs audio still a problem? Or is it worked out?Its workingWhen buying a second hand camera (I never understood this one) is it better to have less shutter counts or less video made? Shutter count only affects stills. A shutter is rated for a specific number of shots and when those have been taken you need to switch out the shutter. For video it does not matter, the amount of videos does not impact the camera either. I think this is all for now!Thanks in advance and great shots Volker, especially the ones testing the Minoltas outdoors (ugh I wish I knew how to change the mount). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volker Schmidt Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 For me the VAF is worth! But as Andrew said before, when you have in mind when the problems occurs, you can avoid them.But generally I can say that the 5dmk2 - also with raw, falls quickly in this issue.Just one thing: remember, that for 1min it takes approximately 4GB on your card.If you film a lot, it is maybe not the right camera. Ricardo Constantino 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 For me the VAF is worth! But as Andrew said before, when you have in mind when the problems occurs, you can avoid them.But generally I can say that the 5dmk2 - also with raw, falls quickly in this issue.Just one thing: remember, that for 1min it takes approximately 4GB on your card.If you film a lot, it is maybe not the right camera.This is one of the reasons it interests me, especially for narratives. It forces your shot ratios to be small and to previsualize your film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volker Schmidt Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Same for me too. It´s like filming 35mm. And adjusting the raw material in After effects is like having my own film lab:). Great fun and extremely cheap! mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Constantino Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Actually having to minimize the shot durations is kinda what I really need ahah I often shoot too much without a point.I might keep the GH3 for the slow-motions and B-Roll and grab a 5D.What CF card do you recommend? Like 32 or 64 gb to grab 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Constantino Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Bit off-topic but how does the RAW files differ from camera to camera? Like 5D, 7D or 50D, what's the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Constantino Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yeah I was on ML forums but the only answers I got are "go with 5D Mark III" regardless of the question ahahI read that CF has advantage over SD but does that mean that 50D has better image quality vs 7D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrorSvensson Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Bit off-topic but how does the RAW files differ from camera to camera? Like 5D, 7D or 50D, what's the difference?the dr differes (check dxomark for that). The 5d mark iii have not moire and aliasing and all the others have different degrees of it. The resolution also varies, 5d iii has highest, 5d ii second, 50d third, 7d 4th, 6d 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volker Schmidt Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Probably it is that here, what you meant Zach:http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=6215.0Very useful for all your questions, Ricardo. Ricardo Constantino and Zach Goodwin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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