Shield3 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Rumors are the new 1dx Mark II will do 4k @ 60 FPS, 22 MP and have a list price of $5999.Should be announced shortly. If true, I wonder if the 4k will be full frame and not 1.3x APC-H like the 1dc.Also this will pretty much destroy the price of new 1dc's - I would think, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted January 18, 2016 Administrators Share Posted January 18, 2016 If the 1D X Mark II would be so video orientated and just around the corner you'd think Canon would have discontinued the 1D C completely by now.I think the rumours look a bit too optimistic for video.Remember all the D5 rumours shouted 4K and it turned up with major limitations.Since 22MP is 5.5K, that full read out at 60fps in a relatively small and battery limited DSLR seems extremely unlikely to me. Maybe they can only achieve it from a small 4K crop of the sensor.Canon's dilemma is thus...If they put Cinema EOS beating full frame 4K 60fps image quality in a $6k camera, it would dilute the appetite of a portion of the market to invest heavily in dedicated Cinema EOS cameras. Wedding photographers who do video as well could just buy one camera for stills and video, and then Cinema EOS cameras would be limited by their ergonomic appeal alone not just their better image quality.Also at $5999 it severely limits Canon's ability to mark up any future 4K Cinema EOS camera aimed at roughly the same market. That is a very low price for a full frame 4K 60fps camera from Canon. Nikkor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 If the d5 had good 4K they might feel the pain, but.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 There has been some talk of a raw video "burst" too. That could be very interesting, for certain applications.I agree that 4K/60fps seems a bit optimistic. They might be wise to the fact that people buy the CXXX range for the video features though and would likely see the 1DX II as a B cam. We can only hope. I really don't think CXXX sales would drop much at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak_heri Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I would bet 1080p 60fps and 4k 24fps. So that would be an upgrade from 720p 60 to 1080p 60fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think it will be similar to what the XC10 has (but better effective resolution of course) in terms of overall specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shield3 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 If the 1D X Mark II would be so video orientated and just around the corner you'd think Canon would have discontinued the 1D C completely by now.I think the rumours look a bit too optimistic for video.Remember all the D5 rumours shouted 4K and it turned up with major limitations.True, but Canon has done 4k for unlimited record time before - I got 1 hour 4 minutes straight with a 256GB CF on the 1dc. Nikon has no prior history that I'm aware of.Since 22MP is 5.5K, that full read out at 60fps in a relatively small and battery limited DSLR seems extremely unlikely to me. Maybe they can only achieve it from a small 4K crop of the sensor.Canon's dilemma is thus...If they put Cinema EOS beating full frame 4K 60fps image quality in a $6k camera, it would dilute the appetite of a portion of the market to invest heavily in dedicated Cinema EOS cameras. Wedding photographers who do video as well could just buy one camera for stills and video, and then Cinema EOS cameras would be limited by their ergonomic appeal alone not just their better image quality.Also at $5999 it severely limits Canon's ability to mark up any future 4K Cinema EOS camera aimed at roughly the same market. That is a very low price for a full frame 4K 60fps camera from Canon.I think the truth lies somewhere in between. $6499 street price, 4k @ 24p, 14/16 FPS shooting. I would love Canon to release a 6d Mark II with 4k and a fold out screen like the 70d. Put DPAF in that sucker and a really good codec and it'd sell like hotcakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lafilm Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 A lot of the main sources are now reporting the 4K at 60p. Will know for sure within 3 weeks. That being said, the video quality alone still may not match the Canon 1D C (500 motion jpeg). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrorSvensson Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 There has been some talk of a raw video "burst" too. That could be very interesting, for certain applications.I agree that 4K/60fps seems a bit optimistic. They might be wise to the fact that people buy the CXXX range for the video features though and would likely see the 1DX II as a B cam. We can only hope. I really don't think CXXX sales would drop much at all.yeah i remember them talking about raw video in a test video of the 1dc where photographer printed stills from the 4k video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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