jgharding Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I've been tempted a few times. It's just size and need for external recorder to get the highest quality that puts me off. I love light cameras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 3, 2016 Share Posted March 3, 2016 The external recorder need is not so bad, as they're getting to be very cheap now, and you'd be buying an extra monitor anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Well, I couldn't find a reason not to take a punt on a f3 that was going too cheap. ended up getting a fully unlocked, rgb/slog PMW-F3 for just under £1400 with a full rig/riser setup, and a few different mounts. I have to say, I'm blown away by how this camera captures light. gonna be taking a 3g sdi out into a pix240 for 444 uncompressed, or into a a newer recorder for prores 4444. IronFilm, jagnje and Cinegain 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 If you want 444 I suggest a Video Devices PIX-E5 But I'm a cheapskate.... which is why I got the F3, so I'm happy with 10bit 422 for now :-) richg101 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 14 minutes ago, richg101 said: on paper the f3 has less dr than the a7s and the a7rii, but imo I'm seeing more usable dr from the f3. the roll off of blown highlights feels more gradual. shadows also feel cleaner and more refined- even on the 35mbs internal - which I happen to think is more durable than the xavc-s 50mbs of the a7 range. IronFilm and mercer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagnje Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 cuple it with the atomos samurai or some other SDI recorder and you have the best cinema camera for the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Yup, when it comes to my "big" camera I'm going to try and stay content with my F3 until one day when I can afford an FS7/F5 :-D Even an F5 is getting down to surprisingly affordable secondhand pricing, certainly once I manage to pull off successfully moving into higher end and consistent film work then I'll be able to afford that (especially if the F5 carries on trending downwards with its pricing during the same time period as well :-P ) Although I can't but help to be tempted to upgrade my smaller camera (G6/D5200) to something like the likes of a NX1/D750/G7/A6300/etc... one day ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax_rox Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I bought one for $1500 and it was a great investment. I use the 10-bit 422 out with my Shogun. Great image, great camera. For the price - pretty impressive. Considering the FS5 is 3-4x the price, the F3 image is on-par, if not better, and easier to use. Of course, the FS5 has 4k, but not super great 4k. The PL mount is great, thought there's not a lot of affordable PL glass out there (unless you count $5k/lens as affordable), but I have Nikon and EF adapters. I use Nikon mostly with AI glass - but I think the F3 particularly shines with a set of CP2s or Ultra Primes on it (see if you can get a budget to hire them ;)) IronFilm and Cinegain 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax_rox Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 On 15/3/2016 at 0:11 AM, IronFilm said: Even an F5 is getting down to surprisingly affordable secondhand pricing, certainly once I manage to pull off successfully moving into higher end and consistent film work then I'll be able to afford that (especially if the F5 carries on trending downwards with its pricing during the same time period as well :-P The F5 is surprisingly affordable, even brand new at the moment. I think the advent of the Varicam LT, as well as whatever NAB will bring will probably put a bit of pressure on the F5. The F5 is a truly awesome camera - I think it's almost the perfect mid-range owner/operator camera when you consider it's wealth of features, image, 4k ability, ISO performance, lens mount adaptability etc. etc. Will be interesting to see how the LT goes in the market though. IronFilm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 How do the 10bit 444 after upgrade and 422 without upgrade compare quality wise? How do the 10bit 444 after upgrade and 422 without upgrade compare quality wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I haven't directly compared it personally, but the rough feeling I got from reading about it online is that the extra cost (& storage) isn't worth the few diminishing returns. (as the whole point of the F3 to me, is its amazing affordability!) PannySVHS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 On 24.11.2017 at 12:22 PM, IronFilm said: I haven't directly compared it personally, but the rough feeling I got from reading about it online is that the extra cost (& storage) isn't worth the few diminishing returns. (as the whole point of the F3 to me, is its amazing affordability!) So you have been using the 422 mostly and being satisfied with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 3 hours ago, PannySVHS said: So you have been using the 422 mostly and being satisfied with it? Either that or even just the internal recording, such as yesterday when filming a conference all day long as the quality didn't matter that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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