s0ny Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Hi guys, I've been watching ALL the a6300 hands-on reviews so far. While there is A LOT of hype on this camera (and i'm impressed by the AF capabilities), I still want to ask - is the NX1 or the a6300 better in terms of image quality? The NX1 caught my eye on YouTube (when the compression is so horrible, yet the NX1 can retain its sharpness and colors so well) and so far, it doesn't seem that the a6300 has beaten this 2 year old camera yet. Would also like to check - how easy is it to grade Sony A series footage that looks like NX1 colors? does it take a a lot of time? Lastly, is there any chance of Samsung releasing a successor to the NX1, given there are so many rumors of them abandoning their business? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Id imagine the image coming out of the NX1 is better overall, but the A6300 should perform better in low light. Also the 2x crop for slow-mo is a huge turn off for me, however, theres a speedbooster to make it FF. I currently own an NX1, and might get an A6300 in the future as a B cam, but I wanna see how it performs, specially concerning rolling shutter/overheating and so on. iamoui, BrorSvensson and Marco Tecno 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Apparently the a6300 wins by a lot in low light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Sunset Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Inside of ISO 1600, they will be similar. The NX1 video degrades at 3200, whereas the A6300 seems to degrade at 6400. This is not the case for stills. I have an NX1, and A6000, and they are totally different cameras. The NX1 is a joy to shoot with, higher hit rate on shallow depth of field, easy to use and fun to interact with. My opinion? As good as the A6300 is, the NX1 retains APS-C champion hybrid status for 2 more years. The only competition will be from the GH5 with 4k 60fps, if they can pull it off, which they will have to do remain in the game. Kisaha, Marco Tecno, kidzrevil and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Arizona Sunset said: Inside of ISO 1600, they will be similar. The NX1 video degrades at 3200, whereas the A6300 seems to degrade at 6400. This is not the case for stills. I have an NX1, and A6000, and they are totally different cameras. The NX1 is a joy to shoot with, higher hit rate on shallow depth of field, easy to use and fun to interact with. My opinion? As good as the A6300 is, the NX1 retains APS-C champion hybrid status for 2 more years. The only competition will be from the GH5 with 4k 60fps, if they can pull it off, which they will have to do remain in the game. Are you sure the a6300 degrades from 6400? The sample from cinema 5d shows much more than that! iamoui 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 I don't think you can really say until users get their hands on it. I am somewhat dubious about the objectivity of review sites like cinema 5d, especially when they are using pre-production models with potentially beta firmware. As a practical matter, the A6000 cameras are a bit small IMO, especially once you stick good glass on it. Personally I think the general dimensions of the NX1 are ideal, at least for my hands (which are smaller than most). People with larger hands might find the A6300 a bit awkward to use. I think that is an important consideration - does the grip seat comfortably in your hand, so that it feels like an extension of you rather than something you are trying to keep hold of. Oh, and regarding a successor to the NX1. There is zero hope from Samsung I think. The best bet would be if the product line were sold off to someone else. The NX2 would have been due for a Photokina 2016 release, so if there are any developments on that front we should see it then with someone else's name on the faceplate. If there is nothing then the NX line is done for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Sunset Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 hour ago, sandro said: Are you sure the a6300 degrades from 6400? The sample from cinema 5d shows much more than that! Are you sure? This makes me think, G7's big brother, not A7S II's little brother (the noise starts dancing around everywhere, shadows, highlights, etc, right at ISO 3200 - this is not as a good as the R II in s35 mode even): Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, Arizona Sunset said: Are you sure? This makes me think, G7's big brother, not A7S II's little brother (the noise starts dancing around everywhere, shadows, highlights, etc, right at ISO 3200 - this is not as a good as the R II in s35 mode even): OK but compared to the NX1 is way ahead, I mean 12800 is decent, NX1's 3200 stars being unusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardo_sousa11 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 It should perform way better than the Nx1 in Lowlight, but I rarely need to go up to ISO1600 on the NX1, I have fast lenses, and it works fine enough. However for lowlight performance, it should be better, yes. kidzrevil and Marco Tecno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Sunset Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Tough to provide a valuation to descriptions like "decent" and "unusable" - easy to tell a person's preference this way at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chris Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 1 hour ago, sandro said: OK but compared to the NX1 is way ahead, I mean 12800 is decent, NX1's 3200 stars being unusable. Agreed. The a6300 is more detailed than the G7 IMO as well. I'll take 12800 and 25600 over not having it at all too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Mayer Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Is the a6300 the same lens mount as the A7s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Mat Mayer said: Is the a6300 the same lens mount as the A7s? Yes, Sony E. I'd personally take an NX1 for ergonomics, color, and battery life, but it depends more on your tastes and priorities than anything. kidzrevil and Mat Mayer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/Chop N Shoot Films/ Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 NX1 feels like the better bang for your buck unless you shoot a lot of nightclub stuff or wedding receptions. Or you could simply invest in faster glass. DPStewart, TheRenaissanceMan, kidzrevil and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0ny Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 in terms of pure sharpness and detail in great lighting, am i the only one that thinks NX1 still beats the hell out of a6300? the a6300 image just doesn't seem to 'pop'. Mattias Burling, Beritar and Marco Tecno 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyturntable Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 If you are still on the fence about these cameras, I'll add my two cents. I've only had the NX1 for a short while. Before that, it was an LX100. Since I've had the NX1, the LX100 stays home a lot. NX1 feels great to shoot with, is weather resistant and, with a faster lens...night shots are easily attainable. I'm by no means a pro...but the pictures and video I am getting out of this camera make me look like one! Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Nx1 gives some of the best image in the market. The ergonomics was a big win for me. The sensor IS picky with lenses though, that may cost you some extra $$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/Chop N Shoot Films/ Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 On 3/10/2016 at 2:22 AM, kidzrevil said: Nx1 gives some of the best image in the market. The ergonomics was a big win for me. The sensor IS picky with lenses though, that may cost you some extra $$ How so? You can use Nikon AI glass and get sharp images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 I just picked up an nx1, because for the price it has nice color and so sharp. Skin looks alive, not so much in most of the other cameras these days. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 6 hours ago, /Chop N Shoot Films/ said: How so? You can use Nikon AI glass and get sharp images. Yeah I was using them and they only perform optimally stopped down (on the nx1 body). I loved the aesthetic but the optics is designed for film. Since then I've got the zeiss milvus lenses and they are ridiculously sharp and contrasty. Think the nx1 is optimized for lenses built for digital sensors. Its a gift and a curse because my nikkors and canon fd's were fine on the gh4 and a7s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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