IronFilm Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 27 minutes ago, Oliver Daniel said: There's a thread on RedUser about the Terra - bloody hell some of those guys probably wear pyjamas with the Red logo on them. Lots of negativity towards Kinefinity. Insane. For the curious, here is the thread (I've commented a few times in that thread already, I'm "David Peterson"): http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?143351-New-6K-Terra-Camera-6K-for-5400 Marco Bentz and Oliver Daniel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 My view on the top three low budget cameras with higher than 4K raw options (RED Raven vs URSA Mini 4.6K vs Kinefinity Terra 6K): http://ironfilm.co.nz/speculation-red-raven-vs-ursa-mini-4-6k-vs-kinefinity-terra-6k/ Quote If you don’t factor in the price / support / brand name cred, then I’d go for a Kinefinity Terra 6K over URSA Mini 4.6K or RED Raven any day of the week. (.....and then I go into much more detail.... read the article!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Can anyone translate this? Lol. A little confused on how a C100 compares to an Arri.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, Germy1979 said: Can anyone translate this? Lol. A little confused on how a C100 compares to an Arri.. It weighs less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 hour ago, DBounce said: It weighs less. The weight of the Red weapon is same as the BMCC?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, mkabi said: The weight of the Red weapon is same as the BMCC?? Actually less 3.3lbs vs 3.74lbs of the BM. But that is just the brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsenroc Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 hour ago, DBounce said: It weighs less. The chart is comparing the size, not weight. They used total volume here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 As of now, Apple has not listed any Kinefinity cameras as authorised ProRes products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Luke Mason said: As of now, Apple has not listed any Kinefinity cameras as authorised ProRes products. Yes, and on a similar note, as of yet Jaguar Land Rover Ltd has yet to list the Landwing X7 as an official model of theirs: http://www.businessinsider.com/china-has-knocked-off-a-range-rover-and-is-selling-it-at-a-third-of-the-price-of-the-real-thing-2015-8 China does not need permission do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayRaven Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Just now, DBounce said: China does not need permission do they? Take a trip down to your local shops, you'll find ripoffs from every country in the world. Including yours. Lego ripped off Kiddicraft, Oreos ripped off Hydrox (and then launched an ad campaign claiming they were the ripoffs), Sketchers ripped off Toms, Disney Pixar ripped off Pierrot Le Poisson Clown, Angry Birds ripped off Crush the Castle, Farmville ripped off Farm Town, Pong Ripped off Table Tennis (the 1972 computer game), Guitar Hero ripped off Guitar Freaks, A fist full of Dollars - Yojimbo, Lincoln Continental - Bently Continental, Chrysler 300 - Bently Continental, Focus/Mondeo - Astin Martin, Astin Martin - Everything Fisker does, Marvel Wasp - DC Bumblebee, Psych - The Mentalist, Benson - Squidward, Secret of the Incas - Raiders of the Lost Ark, Monsters Inc - Little Monsters, Facebook - Friendster, Twitter - TechRadium, Paypal - Billpoint, Burberry - Vivienne Westwood. Need I go on, or shall we keep nationality out of it? Marco Bentz, IronFilm, SR and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, DayRaven said: Take a trip down to your local shops, you'll find ripoffs from every country in the world. Including yours. Lego ripped off Kiddicraft, Oreos ripped off Hydrox (and then launched an ad campaign claiming they were the ripoffs), Sketchers ripped off Toms, Disney Pixar ripped off Pierrot Le Poisson Clown, Angry Birds ripped off Crush the Castle, Farmville ripped off Farm Town, Pong Ripped off Table Tennis (the 1972 computer game), Guitar Hero ripped off Guitar Freaks, A fist full of Dollars - Yojimbo, Lincoln Continental - Bently Continental, Chrysler 300 - Bently Continental, Focus/Mondeo - Astin Martin, Astin Martin - Everything Fisker does, Marvel Wasp - DC Bumblebee, Psych - The Mentalist, Benson - Squidward, Secret of the Incas - Raiders of the Lost Ark, Monsters Inc - Little Monsters, Facebook - Friendster, Twitter - TechRadium, Paypal - Billpoint, Burberry - Vivienne Westwood. Need I go on, or shall we keep nationality out of it? http://www.federalcharges.com/counterfeiting-laws-charges/ Need I go on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DayRaven Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Just now, DBounce said: http://www.federalcharges.com/counterfeiting-laws-charges/ Need I go on? Well yes, you seem to be making the extraordinary claim that Kinefinity are trying to pass their products off as Reds with that link there, so do eloborate to your hearts content. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Who is going to spray paint their Terra "red"? ;-) haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 6 minutes ago, DayRaven said: Well yes, you seem to be making the extraordinary claim that Kinefinity are trying to pass their products off as Reds with that link there, so do eloborate to your hearts content. Reds? No, no, no... you clearly misunderstand, this is about them using ProRes without authorization from Apple Computers. It's Ok, Apple never sues anyone :-)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_ProRes Look at this: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT200321 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 5 hours ago, DBounce said: Yes, and on a similar note, as of yet Jaguar Land Rover Ltd has yet to list the Landwing X7 as an official model of theirs: http://www.businessinsider.com/china-has-knocked-off-a-range-rover-and-is-selling-it-at-a-third-of-the-price-of-the-real-thing-2015-8 China does not need permission do they? You do need permission to use Apple ProRes in the products, and it's incredibly hard to obtain. JVC killed one of their camera products due to Apple rejecting the ProRes certification request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Why did Apple reject it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Bentz Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 News Shooter NAB 2015 "The big news today is that their European dealer HD Videoshop has told us that Kinefinity have officially been given permission by Apple to add ProRes to their camera" http://www.newsshooter.com/2015/04/30/kinemax-6k-gets-8990-kit-price-will-gain-apple-prores-options-in-near-future/ IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 yay!!! Now add back Cineform to them as well! ;-) Marco Bentz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonesx24 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 When you can shoot Cineform Raw, you don't care about Prores. Marco Bentz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Marco Bentz said: News Shooter NAB 2015 "The big news today is that their European dealer HD Videoshop has told us that Kinefinity have officially been given permission by Apple to add ProRes to their camera" http://www.newsshooter.com/2015/04/30/kinemax-6k-gets-8990-kit-price-will-gain-apple-prores-options-in-near-future/ Well apparently Apple knows nothing of this. So perhaps we should just take HD Videoshop's word for it? Good luck with that buddy. But it's your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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