Emanuel Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Well, Andrew is not an anonymous poster anymore and GH5 sales will hardly compete with a raw camera but, for some buyers speculation on 6K / 4K@60p / internal 10-bit can "bring some noise to" real deals out there on potential customers. Usually, wise business men think twice when ask a loan from the bank. nffclml2ppl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted April 18, 2016 Administrators Share Posted April 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Emanuel said: GH5 sales will hardly compete with a raw camera Beg to differ!! Raw cameras are the minority at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 21 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Beg to differ!! Raw cameras are the minority at the moment. True. But, we all know the difference in-between. And you, as opinion maker, you well know the weight of your posts on the world wide web. Go figure a decade later when we still see aspiring manufacturers to mimic mainstream cameras of today (vaporware then, in the middle of the last decade) having pre-orders online from lurkers mostly as their primary business model. E :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Edward Weir Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 In camera stabilization with a none O.I.S lens looks good! Check out 0:52 to 1:02. He is using the kit lens. It would be even better with O.I.S LENS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Ian Edward Weir said: In camera stabilization with a none O.I.S lens looks good! Check out 0:52 to 1:02. He is using the kit lens. It would be even better with O.I.S LENS The kit lens has mega OIS. Unfortunately the video doesn't specify whether this was turned on or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
furfoot Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Anyone found a video showing the C-AF in video? Judging from this video of the ZS100/TZ100 panasonic seems to have finally fixed the hunting associated with contrast af in video (DFD at work?). If I can get focus pulls like that with the GX80 touchscreen I'm ordering it with 12-35 and 35-100 (jitter gone with 5 axis?). jase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Edward Weir Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 On 4/19/2016 at 3:00 PM, MattH said: The kit lens has mega OIS. Unfortunately the video doesn't specify whether this was turned on or not. Thanks for pointing that out. I just leaned that the Power O.I.S lens do work a little better then the Mega O.I.S. I look forward to seeing a video showing how it looks with non O.I.S lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Looks pretty rubbish once he pans around, that just me, or what's going on there..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, Cinegain said: Looks pretty rubbish once he pans around, that just me, or what's going on there..? Look how shaky the unstabilised footage is. I give the stabilisation a gold medal for giving something even close to acceptable. Imagine what it would be like if you actually had smooth camerawork to begin with. That being said. The overal look of the footage in that shot doesn't blow me away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I had trouble understanding him but once I read the description on Vimeo it made sense. Both lenses lack OIS. The first video has 5-Axis IBIS ON and the second has it off. I thought it worked pretty impressively. His settings are strange, though. And the AF is horrible... Hopefully that is either the lens' fault or the settings he used. Obviously the low light did not help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Yeah, the autofocus caused lens breathing, and I think the auto image correction can make things look wonky with movement at wide angle as well. Add a bit of rolling shutter and shakines that not even 5-axis can tame and youve got the perfect recipy for vomitovision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Yeah you ain't kidding, but I think between this video and Martin Wallgren's Instagram video, there is almost enough evidence that the 5-Axis is pretty decent. 34 minutes ago, MattH said: Look how shaky the unstabilised footage is. I give the stabilisation a gold medal for giving something even close to acceptable. Imagine what it would be like if you actually had smooth camerawork to begin with. That being said. The overal look of the footage in that shot doesn't blow me away. But the Martin Walgren Instagram footage looks great, so that leads me to believe this footage was user/auto issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 One thing I noticed about the Brighton beach tests on the vimeo page is that the crop for 4k seems relatively slight. I make it about a 1.1 crop. Which works out at 2.2 crop in full frame terms. Beats the 2.5 of the GH4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 So I guess that matches the G7 crop. That is good to know. I would love to see some more footage before I decide one way or the other, but I am leaning toward picking this up. However, I do wonder how long it will take before BH has it on sale... Maybe the 4th of July. I hate paying full price for electronics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Hard to compare the two videos. They were not shot at the same time, so vibration & movement patterns can be very different. Stabilization looks good though. I guess having the second video helps illustrating the importance of stabilization with lightweight handheld cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 His video at the music store looks pretty decent and it's at 1250 ISO... Which isn't bad for a Panasonic. The stabilization holds pretty well with smaller movements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 1 hour ago, MattH said: One thing I noticed about the Brighton beach tests on the vimeo page is that the crop for 4k seems relatively slight. I make it about a 1.1 crop. Which works out at 2.2 crop in full frame terms. Beats the 2.5 of the GH4. The GH3 has a 2.3 crop. Maybe you're thinking of the GX8, which is more severe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 He often shoots tests in the music shop, the hotel (or whatever it is) and brighton beach. They always, always look bad regardless of the camera But the IBIS is shown to be very effective here! I was worried that we might get big crop or some weird resolution to the image (like Olympus cams) but no, it just looks like your usual Panasonic footage! utsira and mercer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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