Don Kotlos Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 755 RAW Megapixels Up to 300 fps Up to 16 stops of Dynamic Range Integrated High Res Active Scanning Systems POST-CAPTURE REFOCUS & EXTENDED DEPTH OF FIELD With Light Field cinematography, creative camera controls transform into flexible post-production processes, liberating shots from restrictive on-set decisions. COMPUTATIONAL FRAME RATE & SHUTTER ANGLE Adjust frame rates and shutter angles in post-production, so motion blur becomes a flexible creative decision. DEPTH SCREEN With depth screen, it's as if there is a green screen for every object in the scene. But it's not limited to any one object. It's anywhere in space. LIGHT FIELD CAMERA TRACKING Combining an integrated high resolution active scanning system with the Light Field data, Lytro Cinema is providing precise camera tracking information that greatly simplifies the task of CG integration and match moving. https://www.lytro.com/cinema Media Coverage: "This camera is essentially military-grade technology, so Lytro is initially working on getting this camera in filmmakers’ hands when they need it rather than selling the entire solution to studios. Lytro says rental packages start at $125k for utilizing the Cinema hardware/software suite." techcrunch "The cold hard fact was that we were competing in an established industry where the product requirements had been firmly cemented in the minds of consumers by much larger more established companies," wrote Rosenthal. "This issue was compounded by the fact that the consumer camera market was declining by almost 35% per year driven by the surge in smartphone photography and changing consumer tastes." theverge "" That means there's also nothing stopping one from simulating short dolly motion or perspective shifts in post, with nothing but a static camera at the time of capture. "You can shift the camera to the left... [or] to the right, as if you had made that exact decision on set. It can even move your camera in and out" says Head of Light Field Video, Jon Karafin." dpreview benymypony 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 755 RAW Megapixels Up to 300 fps Up to 16 stops of Dynamic Range Integrated High Res Active Scanning Systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Thought April fools' was just the 1st? Holy moly. I thought their focus was solely on VR now (I guess they can shift focus like their cameras). This could get interesting. Curious if Samsung would follow their path... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Cinegain said: Thought April fools' was just the 1st? When I first saw the video and really thought it was a joke. But it looks Lytro found their segment and it will be very very hard for any other company to compete with them. In few years things may change but definitely not anytime soon. I bet that as soon as this camera becomes available it will be in every large production. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 That thing looks massive ^^, once the technology is mature it will take over in CG movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Their VR cam looks very expensive too... They seem to be getting into very highend, very niche markets. I'm trying to get a prototype model for a VR project I am working on, but fear it will be too pricey and data heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I dunno why, but I find Lytro to be a very shady company. I find they over-advertise and then produce mediocre products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jimmy said: Their VR cam looks very expensive too... They seem to be getting into very highend, very niche markets. I'm trying to get a prototype model for a VR project I am working on, but fear it will be too pricey and data heavy. "rental packages start at $125k", so at least for the Lytro Cinema this is not possible 3 minutes ago, sanveer said: I dunno why, but I find Lytro to be a very shady company. I find they over-advertise and then produce mediocre products. I have briefly used their original Lytro and it did what they said it would do. The problem was that it wasn't that useful or even inspiring. Their technology makes much more sense for Cinema and now they are taking advantage of that... Liam and Geoff CB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said: I have briefly used their original Lytro and it did what they said it would do. The problem was that it wasn't that useful or even inspiring. Their technology makes much more sense for Cinema and now they are taking advantage of that... What was the resolution of their post-focus camera? And could you share some pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 Just now, sanveer said: What was the resolution of their post-focus camera? And could you share some pics? A friend of mine had bought it and I was playing with it so unfortunately I have no pictures. The quality was not that great, but since then I believe it has improved a lot. The biggest drawback for me was their design. It appears the same design works much better for a larger studio cam... sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Just now, Don Kotlos said: A friend of mine had bought it and I was playing with it so unfortunately I have no pictures. The quality was not that great, but since then I believe it has improved a lot. The biggest drawback for me was their design. It appears the same design works much better for a larger studio cam... I find the Post Focus feature on the Panasonic cameras far more sensible. And the post focus thing is not the stand alone feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 6 minutes ago, sanveer said: I find the Post Focus feature on the Panasonic cameras far more sensible. I have no experience with the post focus feature, but I thought it is more for static objects since it takes multiple photographs. Isn't that the case? With one picture of the Lytro you had controls like this: Quote And the post focus thing is not the stand alone feature. Definitely and that is probably one of the reasons that Lytro cameras did not have that much appeal. sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said: I have no experience with the post focus feature, but I thought it is more for static objects since it takes multiple photographs. Isn't that the case? The one picture of the Lytro you had controls like this: Definitely and that is probably one of the reasons that Lytro cameras did not have that much appeal. Interesting features. Don Kotlos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrorSvensson Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Jimmy said: Their VR cam looks very expensive too... They seem to be getting into very highend, very niche markets. I'm trying to get a prototype model for a VR project I am working on, but fear it will be too pricey and data heavy. most techonlogy like the tesla cars, 4k and super slow motion always starts out in the high end of the market then slowly trickles down into the consumer market so i would guess same will happen with this new technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamoui Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Meh, I don't know. This seems too.. easy; like cheating. Wouldn't this take away from what-would-be the fun aspects of film making? "Never miss focus.." etc. Where's the fun in that? I understand and agree that the technology is awesome and useful in some situations, but it takes away from the problem solving aspects. "Now you don't have to use your brain!" Great! I didn't want to use it, anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Holy shit. This is a dream come true for VFX movies. andrgl and Geoff CB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Punk Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Don't think there will be a pocket sized version anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, Hans Punk said: Don't think there will be a pocket sized version anytime soon lol. Yeah the size is as unbelievable as the features of this camera. I guess they will also be developing an ED-209 to carry that thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax_rox Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 This camera will certainly have its uses. I don't, however, think it will replace/overtake traditional cinema cameras. We're already seeing more and more left to post, and budgets blow out because of it. I think the object tracking and whatever the technology around that is, is awesome. I think the rest is a bit of a gimmick which will be useful in very specific applications, but the reality of production means it's significantly easier to choose an aperture, focal point, and focal length on set than it is to sit there dialing it in for each and every shot in post. Not to mention its size, assumed cost etc. I do think it will find a place in VFX, especially big budget VFX. Seems like a perfect VFX camera (although I'd like to know more about how it actually captures the images) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 While it won't replace traditional cinema cameras, this could easily replace green screen. Perfect keys without having to worry about a large green backdrop? A compositors dream. Look for this to be used heavily in VFX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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