TVDino Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 31 minutes ago, sanveer said: I don't know why nobody has thought or asked this: 1. If it is modular in the manner that it is, how study is it after connecting it the way it is. I hope it doesn't suffer from misalignment, breakage etc. 2. I wonder how fast the modular connection port transfer is. Since it doesn't have a common motherboard, I am guessing the reliability of ports is far more important here. I am guessing that the basic camera (that is sold) will have most functions, and the modules will add more, or improve existing features. Someone mentioned that it won't work without the extra sound module. I am not sure that may be the case. It says, "AUDIO ELEMENT Your camera "expands its audio capabilities" when you add the Audio Element. Features include 2 mic inputs with phantom power, balanced analog output, and 1/8” stereo headphone jack for monitoring." Sound quality Improves (due to the preamps), and monitoring is available with the sound module. Actually mercer did approach Your subjects earlier, but I think there is one thing in particular everyone should take a closer look at and those who have legal minds can if needed warn us about any "future-incidents" and their eventual right to KEEP the deposits ... "Now the party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part."Here's their VEEERRRYY long contract, I mean TERMS & CONDITIONS ... CRAFT DIGITAL SYSTEMS INC. TERMS & CONDITIONS Craft Digital Systems, Inc. (“Craft,” ‘we,” “us,” “our” or terms of similar import) welcomes you! We are very excited that you have decided to use our products and services. By using our products and services, you are agreeing to these terms. Please read them carefully. 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Bioskop.Inc Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 edit: FFS, just post a link, instead of all that shit! I mean all companies have small print that can fuck you - ever read the iTunes agreement? If they can actually deliver & the image is good, then this could be a groundbreaking product. You could simply start off with a simple set up & use what you've got already. Then buy as you go, until you have what you want. If it has a sensor as good as or better than the (put your camera of choice here - not going to get into that debate here), it'll be a winner? And...look,...they...gave...you...120fps...for...all...you...slo-mo...freaks...! I wonder if its the same company that was talking about doing a modular camera a few years ago? Think that might have been a photography camera though? Zak Forsman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVDino Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, Bioskop.Inc said: edit: FFS, just post a link, instead of all that shit! If they can actually deliver & the image is good, then this could be a groundbreaking product. You could simply start off with a simple set up & use what you've got already. Then buy as you go, until you have what you want. If it has a sensor as good as or better than the (put your camera of choice here - not going to get into that debate here), it'll be a winner? And...look,...they...gave...you...120fps...for...all...you...slo-mo...freaks...! I wonder if its the same company that was talking about doing a modular camera a few years ago? Think that might have been a photography camera though? I'm posting all that sh.. here so there is an UNCHANGED COPY AT EOSHD.COM if someone at CraftCamera edits the terms ... And for people to easier see it and discuus the small print ! mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bioskop.Inc Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, TVDino said: I'm posting all that sh.. here so there is an UNCHANGED COPY AT EOSHD.COM if someone at CraftCamera edits the terms ... And for people to easier see it and discuus the small print ! Man...you're living on a completely different planet from me! If you give them money up front, like now this minute, then you deserve everything that's coming to you & no BS small print is going to save you from being scammed like a new born child! mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjohnsonii Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 When it all comes down to it, there will be only a couple of factors that matter: 1. who makes their sensor? This matters for -color science, -actual dynamic range, -IR handling, to name a few. 2. WHAT SONG IS THAT ON THE INTRO VIDEO?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 25 minutes ago, TVDino said: Actually mercer did approach Your subjects earlier, but I think there is one thing in particular everyone should take a closer look at and those who have legal minds can if needed warn us about any "future-incidents" and their eventual right to KEEP the deposits ... "Now the party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part."Here's their VEEERRRYY long contract, I mean TERMS & CONDITIONS ... CRAFT DIGITAL SYSTEMS INC. TERMS & CONDITIONS Craft Digital Systems, Inc. (“Craft,” ‘we,” “us,” “our” or terms of similar import) welcomes you! We are very excited that you have decided to use our products and services. By using our products and services, you are agreeing to these terms. Please read them carefully. 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Further, unless both you and Craft agree otherwise, the arbitrator may not consolidate more than one person’s claims, and may not otherwise preside over any form of a representative or class proceeding. 7 In the event that Craft makes any future change to this arbitration provision (other than a change to the Craft’s address for Notice), you may reject any such change by sending us written notice within 30 days of the change to Craft’s address for Notice, in which case your account with Craft shall be immediately terminated and this arbitration provision, as in effect immediately prior to the amendments you reject shall survive. 8 All aspects of the arbitration proceeding, including but not limited to the award of the arbitrator and compliance therewith, shall be strictly confidential. The parties agree to maintain confidentiality unless otherwise required by law. This paragraph shall not prevent a party from submitting to a court of law any information necessary to enforce this agreement, to enforce an arbitration award, or to seek injunctive or equitable relief. 9 If only Subsection 6 of this section or the entirety of this section is found to be unenforceable, then the entirety of this section shall be null and void and, in such case, the parties agree that the exclusive jurisdiction and venue described in the "Miscellaneous" section shall govern any action arising out of or related to these Terms. No Agency No agency, partnership, joint venture, employer-employee or franchiser-franchisee relationship is intended or created by these Terms. Miscellaneous These Terms, whether interpreted in a court of law or in arbitration, shall be governed by and interpreted according to the laws of the State of Georgia as they apply to agreements entered into and to be performed entirely within Georgia by Georgia residents, and without regard to conflict of law principles. To the extent that any lawsuit or court proceeding is permitted hereunder, you and Craft agree to submit to the personal and exclusive jurisdiction of the state courts and federal courts located within the Northern District of Georgia for the purpose of litigating all such claims or disputes. These Terms (including the various additional terms incorporated herein by reference) constitute the entire agreement between you and Craft, and supersedes any and all prior agreements, negotiations, or other communications between you and Craft, whether oral or written, with respect to the subject matter hereof, and, except as expressly provided herein, cannot be modified except in writing signed by both parties. Except as set forth in Section 6 of "Dispute Resolution" above, in the event that any provision of these Terms is held to be invalid or unenforceable, then: (a) such provision shall be deemed reformed to the extent strictly necessary to render such provision valid and enforceable, or if not capable of such reformation shall be deemed severed from these Terms; and (b) the validity and enforceability of all of the other provisions hereof, shall in no way be affected or impaired thereby. You agree to abide by all applicable laws in your use of the Service, including export control laws and similar regulations governing the transfer of software and other technology outside of the United States or other jurisdictions. You may not assign these Terms without the prior written consent of Craft, whether expressly or by operation of law, including in connection with a merger or change of control, and any such attempted assignment shall be void and of no effect. Craft may assign these Terms without restriction. Subject to the foregoing, these Terms shall be binding on the parties and their respective successors and permitted assigns, heirs, and estates. You acknowledge and understand that if Craft is unable to provide the Service as a result of a force majeure event Craft will not be in breach of these Terms. A force majeure event means any event beyond the control of Craft. The failure to exercise, or delay in exercising, a right, power or remedy provided in these Terms or by law shall not constitute a waiver of that right, power or remedy. Craft’s waiver of any obligation or breach of these Terms shall not operate as a waiver of any other obligation or subsequent breach of these Terms. Contact Please send any questions or comments, or report violations of this Agreement, to the Company through our contact page, accessible from our website at craftcamera.com, or at Craft Digital Systems, Inc., 4355 Cobb Pkwy. Suite J109 Atlanta, GA 30339. Like I said before, I am also a lawyer, among other things. I went to sleep somewhere in between reading the starting clauses. hehehe. I would wait for the product to hit the shelves. But, it does seem promising. I would wait for someone famous to take the plunge, and then see the results and take a call. Actually, their clauses are a parallel to public platform funding (IndieGogo, Kickstarter etc). America has a very curious system of civil suits. Corporations are fined in millions, and even in billions, in damages. Though, I feel, a lot of those corporations genuinely deserve it. Maybe that is why they have this agreement (from many clauses indicating therein). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 I kinda like it! Even if you'd be using the whole set-up, it's still pretty sweet. I like the modularity. Especially when you think about future upgrades... new sensor? Alright, just pop it right in front. You want to shoot a S16 project? Swap out the 4K S35 for the S16 module. The grip looks cool. It still will be a fraction of the costs of a traditional cinema camera, even when adding all the elements, which I do kinda agree with, you probably gonna add 'em all. Will they manage to pull it off? Within the time frame? Within the possibilities? With the global shutter? Not sure, but time's gonna tell. Atleast it's an interesting approach and gives the others something to think about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 My prediction of a custom build camera was right then. Reminds me of the Apertus Axiom project. Other than that, seems really cool. I just hope it's going to be reliable. That sensor is everything.... Zach Goodwin and Jonesy Jones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 As far I'm concerned, until we see working cameras in people's hands, this is vaporware. Really sexy, perfect form factor, amazingly priced vaporware. Mr.Floppy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Seems pretty cool, although you really don't need an audio module in a "cinema" setup. Cinema shoots use external sound-- even low-budget student projects like mine. That said, nice to have the option for doc/run and gun shooters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil A Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheRenaissanceMan said: Seems pretty cool, although you really don't need an audio module in a "cinema" setup. Cinema shoots use external sound-- even low-budget student projects like mine. That said, nice to have the option for doc/run and gun shooters. But if you have no guide track at all with the camera recordings the synching up gets quite a bit more of a hassle. Therefore a regular 3.5mm jack for scratch audio would have been nice. Sure, it works anyway, just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 25 minutes ago, TheRenaissanceMan said: Seems pretty cool, although you really don't need an audio module in a "cinema" setup. Cinema shoots use external sound-- even low-budget student projects like mine. That said, nice to have the option for doc/run and gun shooters. Not every shooter needs "cinema" setups indeed... Aside the fact, low-budget may mean a different thing in the XXI century. That one is something the film world needs to adapt to. Writes an old film student from XX century :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 13 minutes ago, aldolega said: As far I'm concerned, until we see working cameras in people's hands, this is vaporware. Really sexy, perfect form factor, amazingly priced vaporware. Beating Blackmagic at their own game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijodeibn Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 what about 4K video element + Blackmagic new 4K recorded…..Total = 1,399 + 895 = 2,294….and we have full 4K camera with excellent audio and very light…..could be a winner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsenroc Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 1 minute ago, hijodeibn said: what about 4K video element + Blackmagic new 4K recorded…..Total = 1,399 + 895 = 2,294….and we have full 4K camera with excellent audio and very light…..could be a winner? I'm thinking exactly the same. But some drawbacks in mind is that the slo-mo is not possible anymore with the VA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Looks a bit like a 3D Design / product design university student major project to me. Just looking at those renders makes me weep at how many of the mechanical aspects need to be fulfilled flawlessly. It's all very well drawing something novel and pretty, but making them is another matter. That sucker looks like they'd need a Sony R+D budget to pull it off at their expected price. The reason the RED modularity works is that they price their gear to allow for the tremendous costs associated with making them work properly. I hope I'm wrong and they deliver because if they don;t I can see a handful of optimistic early adopters being very disappointed. MattH and Julian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raafi Rivero Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 BMD has been manufacturing products for years and the Ursa Mini still was a year late. Not optimistic on their delivery timeline, but I hope Craft Cine proves me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 Who are they? Names behind please. Georgia, US will likely mean not Chinese characters, I guess :-D Their website is well made, though. Convincing, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Cinegain said: I kinda like it! Even if you'd be using the whole set-up, it's still pretty sweet. I like the modularity. Especially when you think about future upgrades... new sensor? Alright, just pop it right in front. You want to shoot a S16 project? Swap out the 4K S35 for the S16 module. The grip looks cool. It still will be a fraction of the costs of a traditional cinema camera, even when adding all the elements, which I do kinda agree with, you probably gonna add 'em all. Will they manage to pull it off? Within the time frame? Within the possibilities? With the global shutter? Not sure, but time's gonna tell. Atleast it's an interesting approach and gives the others something to think about... Except that the new modules won't be compatible with the old modules :). It is poor business practice when you provide your clients the opportunity to upgrade their old gear for $500 instead of requiring them to upgrade everything for $5000 :). Cash flow my friend, cash flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted April 18, 2016 Share Posted April 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Nikkor said: Beating Blackmagic at their own game. Kinda, not really. Blackmagic delivers, eventually, but their design isn't nearly this sexy. The Ursa "Mini" is still quite a large camera by my standards, big enough to need the next class of support gear above lightweight/compact DSLR-oriented stuff, which is all that I'm usually willing to schlep around when I'm shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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