Jimmy Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 hour ago, richg101 said: give the crew a $60k budget to shoot, and a $20k budget to pay for the edit/post for a promo video for the nex5n and the results would be just as awe inspiring. The level of production value on this video makes it impossible to judge the camera because in real instances with these budgets they'd just add another $2k for the rental of an Alexa Mini for the couple of days of shooting. I really don't see anything in this short that isn't accessible to most Indies... We are not talking sweeping crane shots or even an octocopter ... Just good lighting and a gimbal or two on the riding shots. Even the editing and grading is fairly standard stuff.... Now when you see an expertly shot goPro video that has been smoothed and massaged to death, I fully agree... But this video doesn't seem like it is miselling what a $6k camera can do in the hands of someone who spends $6k on a camera. Geoff CB, DBounce and Nick Hughes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Jimmy said: I really don't see anything in this short that isn't accessible to most Indies... We are not talking sweeping crane shots or even an octocopter ... Just good lighting and a gimbal or two on the riding shots. Even the editing and grading is fairly standard stuff.... Now when you see an expertly shot goPro video that has been smoothed and massaged to death, I fully agree... But this video doesn't seem like it is miselling what a $6k camera can do in the hands of someone who spends $6k on a camera. Agreed, and I think there is much Canon hate here. But I think that stems from the fact that these haters actually like Canon, but feel like Canon has not embraced the indie film movement as much as they would like. As time goes by and more folks get their cameras and footage will make it's way onto the web. I believe this camera will prove itself to be a great option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Ashcraft Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 If I had the money I'd buy a 1DXII in a heartbeat. The image looks beautiful and in terms of usability, I love the form factor and touch + DPAF combo. Hoping some of this functionality makes its way to the 5d4 BrorSvensson, Xavier Plagaro Mussard and Rinad Amir 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 For those that consider the look of the 1DX Mark II not "film like", what about this clip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I agree with a poster earlier that it is not 100% filmic, and not 100% video... But a new digital style that I personally think looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmcindie Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Filmic for members of this board = shadows up, highlights down. Whala. Instafilm. Also add some grain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 hahaha. p.s. I love Canon, I just wish they would make a mirrorless camera like Sony (but Canon) and do it at a price that I can actually afford :D . I recently purchased a secondhand 7D as a backup photo body and was pretty impressed with the pictures it took, still blows away my GH4 and other MFT cameras. Mikey R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Great video. The only thing I don't like is that I really want this 4k60p but we all know it won't make it to the 5D. 5D4 will probably be similar with the difference of 4k30p instead of 60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsarbomba Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I think they will. Sony has taken a pretty sizable following. Conom coming out with 4k @ 60fps will bring alot of people back over. Give it a leg up on sony and possibly the GH5 also. But rumors are the GH5 is going to be stacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photographer-at-large Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 4 hours ago, ajay said: For those that consider the look of the 1DX Mark II not "film like", what about this clip? BTS of Bones of Contention above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivanhurba Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 The footage is beautiful and it really is a great camera. Clog missing it's an issue but you can never discard an update to the 1DC and I find the grading really nice with just a little post-oversharpening in the tools at the beginning but I'm really liking more and more the clinic sharp look as in Tron or Oblivion and this one has lot of that. If it's good for owning, or maybe renting something like the C300mkII it's a personal opinion now. We can't deny Canon's mojo! Like it was said, I'm just bitter with Canon because they're centering on the high end and letting me having the crumbs which forces me to move somewhere else. But I'll keep my lenses in case somebody hypnotizes their board and something like this enters my income range... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mikey R Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 On 28/04/2016 at 10:24 PM, Inazuma said: Lol you guys talk about thickness of the image like wine conocers talk about their drink. Please stop. You cant possibly make judgements lile this from a compressed web video. You need the raw footage in your hands and know about how it was lit, shot etc. Most people who use cameras like the gh4 arent setting up huge diffusers to soften 1k watt lights or even the sun. Thats really where the difference lays when you see footage from a 10k camera and from a 1k camera After working with Panasonic footage for years (gh1, gx7), every time I see Canon footage these days it just seems thicker, richer, more solid somehow. It is the only way I can think of to describe what I'm seeing! It just seems to have more "weight" .. is it just because the colours are so right/pleasing?? I know it sounds crazy, but that is what I see, and how my brain interprets/labels it. I'm glad I'm not the only one! It shines though fine on the web too.. I did own a Canon 50d for a while, and I do like the gh1 colour better than the gx7.. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 I wish this camera had a LOG profile. One huge benefit of log is highlight roll off. The videos I've seen so far have poor highlight roll off. The NX1 does that better. If they added a profile, I'd put serious thought into grabbing one. Although the 120fps mode quality doesn't particulary good. I'll have to rent one to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Oliver Daniel said: I wish this camera had a LOG profile. One huge benefit of log is highlight roll off. The videos I've seen so far have poor highlight roll off. The NX1 does that better. If they added a profile, I'd put serious thought into grabbing one. Although the 120fps mode quality doesn't particulary good. I'll have to rent one to find out. Turn on highlight tone priority with neutral picture profile, much better highlight roll off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Luke Mason said: Turn on highlight tone priority with neutral picture profile, much better highlight roll off. Good tip. I think there is definitely a place for this camera many an indie filmmakers kit. With the USA release slated for tomorrow this is just the beginning of the footage that will be out there. I encourage all of you to post new footage to this thread as it comes out. That way we will have a centralized location where we can locate the latest example from this intriguing new camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lafilm Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 8 hours ago, Oliver Daniel said: I wish this camera had a LOG profile. One huge benefit of log is highlight roll off. The videos I've seen so far have poor highlight roll off. The NX1 does that better. If they added a profile, I'd put serious thought into grabbing one. Although the 120fps mode quality doesn't particulary good. I'll have to rent one to find out. The new Canon 1DX Mark ii does not need Log. In fact at NAB this year, I had 2 separate Canon reps tell me that this new cam replaces the Canon 1D C. You can tweek the cam multiple ways as has already been pointed out in this thread. Btw, the images from the new 1DX really does blow away anything you can capture on any Sony A7S/R -4K. The native DR on the 1DX ii is astonishing for $6,000. A steal. I saw it with my own eyes at the show. Of course beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. To me it screamed cinematic with practically zero tweaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelaxstudio Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 On 2016年4月28日 at 11:53 PM, Zach Ashcraft said: If I had the money I'd buy a 1DXII in a heartbeat. The image looks beautiful and in terms of usability, I love the form factor and touch + DPAF combo. Hoping some of this functionality makes its way to the 5d4 Firstly ，prepare about 30 CFast cards for daily use，because that 800Mbps Mjpeg codec makes huge file size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgv5 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 4 hours ago, gelaxstudio said: Firstly ，prepare about 30 CFast cards for daily use，because that 800Mbps Mjpeg codec makes huge file size 800mbit is not much bigger than 660mbit of 5d3 raw, this amount of data is certainly manageble. Besides 1dxii can record 4k 24/25/30 and 1080p 24/25/30/60/120 to cheaper (but fast) CF cards, CFast is needed only for 50/60p 4k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gelaxstudio Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, kgv5 said: 800mbit is not much bigger than 660mbit of 5d3 raw, this amount of data is certainly manageble. Besides 1dxii can record 4k 24/25/30 and 1080p 24/25/30/60/120 to cheaper (but fast) CF cards, CFast is needed only for 50/60p 4k. Now you should see the point,the 800Mbps 8bit Mjpeg is even bigger than the 14bit raw with full DR,so it is a poor codec,why not wait untill ML hack it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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