ken Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Just finished in first stage. Prime lens: Canon EF 40mm STM, actual ratio: ~1.5x valery akos and ultra909 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew mcmillan Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 so what going on in there anti12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 4 hours ago, andrew mcmillan said: so what going on in there Taken samples, 2.25:1 from 3:2 cmos FF camera by 1.5x ratio. valery akos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjamerson Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 looks interesting.. can you do it on say a 70D using Dual Pixel AF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 5 hours ago, mjamerson said: looks interesting.. can you do it on say a 70D using Dual Pixel AF? I don't know about Dual Pixel AF. Anything special in auto focus? Original lens has no flare, but with close up filter, flare added. Samples with hand hold SLR Magic +1.3x filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 Distortion test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Bokeh test, with +1.3D filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 Filter thread(77mm) added. samples with CPL filter. BTW, the CPL filter (HOYA Silm) also contributes flare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artiswar Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 But what's happening optically?! This distortion is gorgeous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 8 hours ago, artiswar said: But what's happening optically?! This distortion is gorgeous. In my comparison test, the lens actual horizontal view angle equals to 21mm. So basically, even wider then most 1.33x lens. Some perspective distortion is must, comparing to 1.33x lens with widest setting, not much difference. The image quality is basically the same as ISCO or Schneider lens. Much better then most 1.33x lens. I post a high resolution sample here at F2.8, wide open shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbbayliss Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 Very cool stuff, so you merged together a Canon EF 40mm STM and a Cinelux ES 2x and now you have a working FF autofocus setup? How did you manage to align all of the elements so precisely, I'm guessing this is more involved than a it seems. Did you need any specialist gear or was it all done by hand? Are you going to post instructions or a tear down so that others can try it out too? artiswar and anti12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 15 hours ago, rbbayliss said: Very cool stuff, so you merged together a Canon EF 40mm STM and a Cinelux ES 2x and now you have a working FF autofocus setup? How did you manage to align all of the elements so precisely, I'm guessing this is more involved than a it seems. Did you need any specialist gear or was it all done by hand? Are you going to post instructions or a tear down so that others can try it out too? Alignment is easy. First adjust only rear lens, you still can find a horizontal flare, but very short. Magnifying LCD to see it clear and adjust to the best. Then after mounting front lens, adjust front lens only. The key here is the rear lens is not from the front lens, which you noticed it. So I need to destroy two anamorphic lenses. Each manufacturer design the front lens and rear lens has different diopter factor approach. So we can try different combination to get wider or shorter at focus point. And also need to find the way to mount the front lens become non movable. If set up ok, that is real single focus. And no extra glass, the image quality is identical as dual focus setup. rbbayliss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbbayliss Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Wow, thanks for the extra photos. What was the lens that you used for the rear element? I like your approach, even if it sounds like a lot of trial and error would be involved. ; ) I recently recalibrate the rear element on my 16F to get it sharper, the required adjustments are very very small. so I suspect the slight blur on the right side of your photos are due to the alignment (not the rotation, but the z-space alignment) - or do you see this as symmetric in the uncropped output? Using the Cinelux as the front element makes sense to me. I find mine pretty super sharp - I typically pair it with the Canon 100mm Macro as the macro lenses have longer focus throw - which is also why manual lenses are great as taking lenses... Btw, Did you have to cut the cinelux? (I haven't taken mine apart so not sure if that's just the front). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted May 30, 2016 Author Share Posted May 30, 2016 1 hour ago, rbbayliss said: Wow, thanks for the extra photos. What was the lens that you used for the rear element? I like your approach, even if it sounds like a lot of trial and error would be involved. ; ) I recently recalibrate the rear element on my 16F to get it sharper, the required adjustments are very very small. so I suspect the slight blur on the right side of your photos are due to the alignment (not the rotation, but the z-space alignment) - or do you see this as symmetric in the uncropped output? Using the Cinelux as the front element makes sense to me. I find mine pretty super sharp - I typically pair it with the Canon 100mm Macro as the macro lenses have longer focus throw - which is also why manual lenses are great as taking lenses... Btw, Did you have to cut the cinelux? (I haven't taken mine apart so not sure if that's just the front). Please refer to this thread, they are the same lenses as this auto focus mods: Yes, I need to cut cinelux several times, shorter and shorter to make it better. The previous manual single focus mainly drawback is no aperture control, so I gave up. But the ISCO's mechanism is really good, it is an internal focus type. rbbayliss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted June 11, 2016 Author Share Posted June 11, 2016 Modify again by adding a negative diopter in side, better accurate focus at infinity, not so wide, measured view angle equals to about 24mm, but distortion improved. Edge IQ might be not so good. But still much better than 1.33x lens I used before. Flares are funny. Flynn and Tito Ferradans 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Álvaro Ochoa Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Hello Ken! Congrats for your work. I love flares and bokeh with this ana-lens. I have a Schneider Cinelux too, and I wanna use it like a single focus or autofocus scope. Can you share your experience? Thanks a lot. This is my email: alvarouno0@gmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conaneva Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 On 5/29/2016 at 11:23 PM, ken said: Alignment is easy. First adjust only rear lens, you still can find a horizontal flare, but very short. Magnifying LCD to see it clear and adjust to the best. Then after mounting front lens, adjust front lens only. The key here is the rear lens is not from the front lens, which you noticed it. So I need to destroy two anamorphic lenses. Each manufacturer design the front lens and rear lens has different diopter factor approach. So we can try different combination to get wider or shorter at focus point. And also need to find the way to mount the front lens become non movable. If set up ok, that is real single focus. And no extra glass, the image quality is identical as dual focus setup. Wow，great modification！ I've got a cinelux es,too. How can I dissemble it ? Loose all the screws I can find..... thx~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 On 5/31/2018 at 8:30 AM, conaneva said: Wow，great modification！ I've got a cinelux es,too. How can I dissemble it ? Loose all the screws I can find..... thx~ my mod is just cut it. if you need to take out front lens, besides loosing screws, you need to soften epoxy points by heat gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 very interesting as i have a canon must keep my eyes open for a Schneider anamorhic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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