mercer Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Turboguard said: I guess, I just don't like the look then. You don't have to use the BMPCC profile... A lot of BMPCC users like the Alexa profile... Or try the Cinestyle. Have you tried different film stocks as well, or adjusted the level of the stock, or the curve of the stock? I only ask because I am really bad at color grading and I have found FilmConvert to be the fastest, simplest way to achieve a nice, color corrected/graded look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turboguard Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 7 hours ago, mercer said: You don't have to use the BMPCC profile... A lot of BMPCC users like the Alexa profile... Or try the Cinestyle. Have you tried different film stocks as well, or adjusted the level of the stock, or the curve of the stock? I only ask because I am really bad at color grading and I have found FilmConvert to be the fastest, simplest way to achieve a nice, color corrected/graded look. For quick jobs I usually CC in davinci then use film convert with the default profile to make a quick grade inside of premiere. Again, I've never used the BMPCC profile. I also meet with like weird rainbow effects when using FC so at this point I mainly stick with DaVinci. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX1user Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 They released the A6300 profile today. Could the NX1 be next? http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/06/02/film-convert-release-sony-a6300-camera-profile/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted June 2, 2016 Author Share Posted June 2, 2016 1 hour ago, NX1user said: They released the A6300 profile today. Could the NX1 be next? http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/06/02/film-convert-release-sony-a6300-camera-profile/ Hopefully ! I am using the new profile for the RX10ii and it completely saved my ass from terrible sony color ! I can only imagine the results we can get with gamma dr mode on nx1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iaremrsir Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 On 5/17/2016 at 8:56 AM, NX1user said: How much work goes into them creating a camera profile? Any idea? I'm gonna guess a lot. I would think it'd be similar to calibrating a new camera. There are a couple of methods, but the simplest would be first recording grayscale charts to linearize the film stock. Then using something like the ColorChecker SG or similar they can create a 3x3 matrix which can get them most of the way to through color conversion from white balanced digital source to film stock. Then convert to something like LCh space to adjust each channel individually using multiple reference charts. Then convert back to linear RGB space and apply the film transfer function. There's also the route of measuring the spectral sensitivities of both to get a more accurate reading than the color charts, but those tools can cost in the 10K USD range. I don't know if that's what they actually do, but it would technically work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted June 3, 2016 Author Share Posted June 3, 2016 And thats all she wrote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 27 minutes ago, kidzrevil said: And thats all she wrote JOY kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX1user Posted June 3, 2016 Share Posted June 3, 2016 14 hours ago, kidzrevil said: And thats all she wrote So how will that work? Do they recommend settings for your camera so you get the best result from their product? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 @NX1user you simply select the picture profile that u shot with in the software... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX1user Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 18 hours ago, kidzrevil said: @NX1user you simply select the picture profile that u shot with in the software... So if I'm shooting Gamma DR, but I've changed the sharpness -10 and green to 0.95, Film Convert can figure that out? Or do I just shoot with Gamma DR as it came from Samsung? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 The 0.95 green thingwill throw the calibration off. I'd advise against that color shift thing. Idk where ya'll got the idea to do that but in my experience it affects the color accuracy cause all its doing is removing green from the color channel and throwing everything else off. You better off shooting with -2 or -3 saturation to prevent channels from clipping and it will also ensure compatibility with filmconvert when its released @NX1user Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamoui Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 On 6/4/2016 at 3:38 PM, kidzrevil said: The 0.95 green thingwill throw the calibration off. I'd advise against that color shift thing. Idk where ya'll got the idea to do that but in my experience it affects the color accuracy cause all its doing is removing green from the color channel and throwing everything else off. You better off shooting with -2 or -3 saturation to prevent channels from clipping and it will also ensure compatibility with filmconvert when its released @NX1user @Andrew Reid recommends the 0.95 green in his NX1 guide. Although, in this article he states "Alas the NX1 has a screen of RGB sliders for each picture profile and a hue adjustment. Does dialling down green or shifting the hue away from green and towards magenta solve the problem? No, it just desaturates the greens!" The problem he's talking about is how much green the NX1 renders (at least compared to the 1DC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 I don't think that was tested well enough because it definitely doesn't "just desaturate the greens" it shifts the entire color balance of the image. I wouldn't mess with those sliders but if it works for you then fine @iamoui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX1user Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I just bought film convert today (student discount!) and asked about the NX1 profile. They said they are about halfway done. No release date yet though. Parker and iamoui 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 On 5/17/2016 at 8:53 AM, Andrew Reid said: What's in the 'other'? Seems a big piece of the pie to be all mysterious about I'm guessing each camera in that "other" category got 5% or less. All in all, I am very impressed the NX1 came second to the UM4.6K! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmyturntable Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 @kidzrevil Heard anything more about the NX1 profile from FilmConvert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 3 hours ago, timmyturntable said: @kidzrevil Heard anything more about the NX1 profile from FilmConvert? Nope but I have a feeling they aint prioritizing it at all. Hopefully it comes out soon cuz they just came out with one for the ursa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX1user Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 11 hours ago, kidzrevil said: Nope but I have a feeling they aint prioritizing it at all. Hopefully it comes out soon cuz they just came out with one for the ursa Do you think there is a huge difference in the results you get by having a dedicated camera profile versus using the generic profile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 @NX1user big difference ! This is the reason why I am excited for this FILMCONVERT update. I've seen it in my GH4,A7S & rx10ii the conversion even makes sony slog look amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Same for the UM46K. I tried using the BMPC 4K profile before they released the 4.6K profile, but it's a night & day difference. kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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