dbp Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 It's like an exaggerated response to what I often get at weddings IronFilm and AaronChicago 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew19 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 people become self aware once they realize a camera is on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 7 hours ago, dbp said: It's like an exaggerated response to what I often get at weddings Do you like to be filmed? I accept that people feel uneasy when someone holds a camera (or smartphone) to their faces, because I know how impertinent and ignorant that can be. I feign respect for their privacy and kindly ask for permission. I smile and reassure them nonverbally that they can feel safe. Works in 90% of all cases. The remaining 10%? Well, it's their right to forbid it. Simple as that. People like to be respected, but they also, in my experience, like to be asked and then directed. It's more about psychology than about personal rights. You've got to have (and show) empathy and then exploit that. Polite words aren't enough, it's your body language and your whole manner. That's why I still shoot weddings. The lens is their 'magic mirror'. iamoui and Orangenz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 That was pretty good. The guy has some guts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelsinkiZim Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 9 hours ago, dbp said: It's like an exaggerated response to what I often get at weddings The key to weddings is to be like maggot. Slip around, like water... but really like maggot. That's what you are. Eat when no-one is looking. In fact, do everything when no-one is looking. Bride. You're golden! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Too funny. If people think they can tell you not to shoot, they will. It's a kind of situational authority that I myself raise a huge middle finger to. If you are in a public place and don't like the camera then get out of my frame. Soon we will have people requesting permission before you can 'look' at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 9, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 9, 2016 First 4 minutes are hilarious, then I stopped it - does it get a bit repetitive after that? If not then I'll watch the full 50 minutes I think in the 90's there wasn't the urge to control our own images quite so much or the suspicion over how the material would be used. The internet changed all that and it does make it more difficult to capture a slice of life, documentary style, undetected. People behaving naturally. If you ask them permission, it changes the nature of the footage, it feels stiff and staged. Damphousse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I had to watch the whole thing ^^. Anyway, the guy doesn't really communicate, if he just would stand there staring "what are you doing?" ,"just staring", it would have had the same effect. So in the end it's not really about the camera btw, where was this filmed? It was strange nobody had a gun (maybe that one gangbanger near the end had one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I don't think his approach is ideal, but clearly the purpose of the video was to elicit a reaction. Amusing, nonetheless. I do not think anyone has the right to attack him or his property for filming. As many have said they can simply leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viet Bach Bui Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 This video is fascinating. Not because of any point it's trying to make but because I got to see the everyday life of Americans, to see how they live, how they talk, how they react to a situation. Everything was so real, there was no staging, no gloss. The parts with the woman drug addict and the homeless guy just broke my heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enny Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I love the old asian guys he comes back lol guy at 3:9 min in on the phone is young Ray Romano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Nice, I had only seen the first three videos before. These are so excellent. I would never be able to do what he did, it would feel all too uncomfortable just standing there filming people like that. "It's just a video" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enny Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 homeless guy at end dam sad man whilke other own bazilion dollars IN USA this guy wants to sleep in nice home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I found myself curious to know what he was cutting out of the material and why? I also wondered why he chose to include the junkie and homeless folks in the material. Yes they are interesting in some ways, but I don't see the relationship between them and the other 'get that camera away from me' types. In any case, a great social commentary about this particular time in history and from a very bizarre part of the world. God it would be uncomfortable to be an American living outside America sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 9, 2016 Administrators Share Posted June 9, 2016 Now watched it all. I'm surprised he didn't get shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbp Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 I find it funny how some of you assume that I side with the guy or that I condone his behavior. I don't. It's weird and obnoxious. I just posted it because it's interesting to watch, in a trainwreck sort of way. BUT it does amuse me how afraid of cameras most people are. To answer the question, no I don't mind being filmed that much, if we're talking about public places. Or when I'm a guest at weddings, or happen to be at some venue where they are making a video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 Turns out that people hate being filmed - by arseholes. Zach Goodwin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbp Posted June 10, 2016 Author Share Posted June 10, 2016 With humor, sure, that makes sense. But not with a video of a social phenomenon. I posted something to serve as an observation for how people behave in a particular situation. I did not say who I thought was right or wrong. It's just "look, here's how people behave in X situation" A non judgmental observation. Which is why I said "turns out people get mad when you film them". Which, according to this video, they do. Say some asshole does a crime and goes to trial. He gets off. The news reports it. People will post the video clip of that report for two reasons. Either in support of the verdict, or to declare their outrage at the verdict. Some might even do it for a "huh, what do you know?" impartial reason. All valid. Not all will share where they stand on the issue. So this, "You posted it blankly, when you post videos blankly it says to the viewer that I 100% agree with what was said.", I disagree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Forsman Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 dbp, you don't need to defend yourself from anyone -- they'd have nothing to criticize without inventing a fictional motive for posting this video. it is out of line to attack your character. i see that. i'm sure others do too. Zach Goodwin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 10, 2016 Share Posted June 10, 2016 It is fascinating. I remember his earlier stuff from years ago. I don't see what is the big deal. Just walking down the length of my local main street will get myself filmed by HUNDREDS of cameras! Permanent installed cameras. Who ever complains about them? Nobody. Ever. iamoui and Zach Goodwin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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