squig Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 "If I were a scammer" The crook's still playing the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bugg Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, squig said: The crook's still playing the victim. The crook's still playing the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squig Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Richard Bugg said: The crook's still playing the crowd. So it appears. It's not the antagonist who gets to write the third act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DevonChris Posted July 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Ebrahim Saadawi said: I will refund and settle it out with three gentlemen and we will ask them to send you a message personally that they've been satisfied/refunded and don't want to press charges and if you should delete this thread which is ruining the forum and my reputation if anyone googles my name. Is that possible if you get the forgive word from the three guys themselves and that they've been repaid? It should be possible, it's their call and only theirs after all right? Plus then you ban me from EOSHD to avoid any future scamming from my side. Unfortunately, Ebrahim, when you chose to steal from other people, you risked ruining your reputation. I think this thread should remain on the forum, but locked, onced the matter is resolved. You are only refunding these people (if you actually do) because of the pressure brought upon you by this thread. If the OP had not started it, you might have been tempted to scam more people, given your previous success. You are a criminal because you have stolen from (at least) three people and you are a liar because you have lied repeatedly and continuously. These are not desirable characteristics for a Dentist starting out on his career and now future employers will be able to see how untrustworthy you are. You brought this upon yourself and risked a huge amount. tweak, kaylee, Chrad and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 So, if he refunds the people he scammed, his wisdom of a filmmaker with decades of experience with all sorts of gear will not be put into question? Somehow, this seems like the bigger issue here, since this is a place for getting reliable advice. Chrad, mercer and kidzrevil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonChris Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 25 minutes ago, JurijTurnsek said: So, if he refunds the people he scammed, his wisdom of a filmmaker with decades of experience with all sorts of gear will not be put into question? Somehow, this seems like the bigger issue here, since this is a place for getting reliable advice. That is one of the reasons why this thread should remain on the forum. So that in future his previous advice can be assessed in the light of this thread ie be treated as suspect. I suggest to @Andrew Reid that he must keep this thread on the forum but lock it when ES has refunded the people he scammed. However I also suggest that Andrew writes a short summary on the first post that summarises this thread so people don't have to trawl through the endless pages to find the relevent points : ie Ebrahim Saadawi was accused by the OP of scamming him Two other people came forward to say that they had also been scammed by him After a lot of persuasion Ebrahim admitted to the scams and attempted to verify his identity Ebrahim also admitted to extensive lying about his circumstances and experience in cinematography and consequently all his advice should be treated as inaccurate and possibly misleading Ebrahim eventually refunded the three people he admitted to stealing from (Hopefully) Ebrahim has now been banned from the EOSHD forum (hopefully) If Ebrahim is banned, then I think that will be shown on his status with every one of his previous posts so that will help alert future users to the unreliability of his advice. kidzrevil, andy lee and IronFilm 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bugg Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Comment removed per AL's wish below. andy lee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andy lee Posted July 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2016 MODERATOR INTERVENTION: Moderator Jonpais and myself as fellow Moderator have been talking and we are going to keep this thread open for now BUT THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS : the thread stays open for the four people involved in this crime to communicate, it stays open to keep Ebrahim Sadaawi honest and full fill his promise to refund everyone involved ......eveyone one else back off and let them resolve this issue . NO MORE POSTS on this thread from now on or we will delete them if you are not involued in this situation. Ebrahim Sadaawi you keep in contact with Tim , Thomas and James who you have stolen money from , you stick to the plan to refund them , you keep in regular contact with them and let them know exactly what is happening no excuses and no stalling . Tim, Thomas and James you keep in regular contact with Ebrahim Sadaawi and you can use this thread to keep us all informed how it is progressing . If Ebrahim Sadaawi goes back on his word and starts stalling post on here and keep us informed what is going on . Everyone else does not post anymore on this thread, yes that means you !! no more lynch mob and wolfpack tactics . lets get our fellow EOSHD members refunded - that is the priority now. let Ebrahim Sadaawi repay Tim, Thomas and James . If Ebrahim Sadaawi does not keep his promise to refund all three people he scammed , Andrew Reid will be taking this futher with the authorities - this is his forum. EOSHD MODERATORS André Eriksson, JamesDrum, Timotheus and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 This is very wise. Thanks. To update: No Stalling or delays. I just went and sent the SLR Rangefinder to Tomas Overtoom. And sent them proof in the PM. It'll be in his house in days/week. So it's done. Tim and Tomas promised before that if I sent it to any of them they'll both let this go and split the cost. I hope they stick and tell that to the moderator on this thread out of their good heart, as I just would not be able to refund Tim too, because I will gather James' money very difficultly as he agreed in one month time is small sums. Right now I'll work on gathering/refunding @JamesDrum money by the time he agreed upon and I gave legal written confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IshootbeforeItalk Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 I've received a transport slip from Ebrahim. I'll keep you informed when it arrives and what the content is. If Tim and I can sell it for EU 500,- then we'll split the amount that covers our expenses. If the RF can't be sold for 500,-, but less, then I suggest Ebrahim covers the missing amount to cover our expenses. I think that's fair. But I think we can sell it for 500,-. andy lee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 thank you for keeping us posted on this news Tomas , let us know when it arrives and it is in full working order . Now we have to make sure James is also refunded by Ebrahim Saadawi. James has agreed a time frame for this repayment with Ebrahim Saadawi , please stick to this time frame . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IshootbeforeItalk Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Please note that Ebrahim clearly stated he would pay the second half over time. But as long as we're paid what we previously lost, we shall be flexible and realistic. andy lee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted July 22, 2016 Share Posted July 22, 2016 12 hours ago, andy lee said: thank you for keeping us posted on this news Tomas , let us know when it arrives and it is in full working order . Now we have to make sure James is also refunded by Ebrahim Saadawi. James has agreed a time frame for this repayment with Ebrahim Saadawi , please stick to this time frame . I will stick to the time frame. I am in contact with James. 13 hours ago, IshootbeforeItalk said: I've received a transport slip from Ebrahim. I'll keep you informed when it arrives and what the content is. If Tim and I can sell it for EU 500,- then we'll split the amount that covers our expenses. If the RF can't be sold for 500,-, but less, then I suggest Ebrahim covers the missing amount to cover our expenses. I think that's fair. But I think we can sell it for 500,-. I hope you can sell it for that but I doubt it, it's a very specialised Item. Anyway I'd love that you would! BTW to give small details: I didn't send the box (I recieved it in a normal brown cartoon box with cut off foam, just that, and that little cartoon box is not where to be found in my house, so I put it in a any box I can find just to make sure it's safe. (It's a small white box, I think a box of a P&S camera or something) I hope the box wouldn't be a problem and that it arrives safely and fully functioning to you. It's truly mint condition and has zero scratches or any sort of wear. The glass is 100% clear and has no speck of dust. I have very little doubt anything would happen to it as it's simply a tank. A full metal housing. It's a beautiful piece of optics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IshootbeforeItalk Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Small update, DHL has contacted me for the delivery of a package. With EU 44,50 import tax. sanveer and andy lee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Damn. I claimed a 30$ value for the item to avoid any high customs for you, thank god I didn't write 599$! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IshootbeforeItalk Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 6 hours ago, Ed_David said: That stinks but you would have had to pay for that anyway. Also lets remember the thing goes for 600 usd new and it looks to be in perfect condition. So quit your yapping. ? I'm planning to sell this for EU 500 and split the amount with Tim, only because Ebrahim can't afford to repay us directly. This is a coulance/leniency, because we could've just forced him to repay us all. The extra tax will come out of his pocket. So no yapping here. Just stating facts. James, Tim and I are walking away without any loss. I'm just being clear about it upfront. Ed_David, andy lee, benymypony and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 24 minutes ago, HelsinkiZim said: I teased you man, and I am sorry for that. You have such a great future ahead of you and this was such a mis-step. But you have so much compared to all of us miserable idiots. I am a bit jealous. To us it is such a perfect family, which is why we did not believe it. Thanks for the proof post and I am happy you have Ed as a lifelong friend now to guide you in all things filmmaking. But damn, this was a good story. Like daayuuum. Sorry you were the un-wanting celebrity. But you did do something stupid, or someone did. or... jeez I cant remember anymore... just take care dude. Although your posts will be deleted because the thread has been locked to be just for the three people involved: I am very very grateful and honored for these words, it really makes my day:"You have such a great future ahead of you. But you have so much compared to all of us miserable idiots. I am a bit jealous. To us it is such a perfect family, which is why we did not believe it. Thanks for the proof post and I am happy you have Ed as a lifelong friend now to guide you in all things filmmaking." Thank you so much HelsinkiZim. I hope I do have a great future ahead of me, but to a degree I know I DO. It's just a very rough patch I am going through right now financially since I am trying to pay 300$ to someone and has many other life/college financial requirements so it's making things such an impossible task for a 21 year-old for me to take. I hope Tim and Tom will be satisfied in someway and forgive this when they receive the package. And on the other hand, on 4th of August (about a week from now) I will send my college money to James to make this right. 2000 EGP which should translate into 225$, and work to make the remaining 75$ I owe him in the time frame he's approved (til 15th of the month). And I hope this makes it all right and none of the three involved would be upset. You have no idea how much I went through and will go through just to make this right, it's SO much more than the stupid scam conducted or the pitiful money that came out of it. But I'll make it. No matter what it means, even if I pay them off my college money and drop off a semester and just graduate a year ahead of time. I'll go that far to make this right so no worries to the people involved please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IshootbeforeItalk Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The Rangefinder is in. Here's the link so people can see the auction. Buy it now for EU 500,- and get loads of EOSHD karma points extra. http://link.marktplaats.nl/m1073137645 andy lee, JamesDrum, omar and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 any EOSHD members who want to buy this will be helping to resolve this situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squig Posted July 28, 2016 Share Posted July 28, 2016 Mods, this should not be allowed to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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