LimitBreak Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 So I just found out that Magix acquired sony Vegas Pro with the whole Sony Creative Suite, and just announced a new version that will launch in September. But what they seem to highlight as the newest feature beside a redesign along with 4k and HEVC Hardware Acceleration support, is the native ProRes capabilities and support. So will this be the go to Prores editing software for Windows users ? They also lowered the price from $600 to $200 and are giving Vegas Pro 14 for free if you purchase the 13 !! Thoughts ? Here is the offer link http://www.magix.com/us/specials/vegas/exclusive-welcome-offer/ Geoff CB, Flynn, Pavel Mašek and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Yes, Magix seem to be very enthusiastically supporting Vegas! Unlike Sony who let Sony languish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I guess not many people here use Sony Vegas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Is sadly in 3rd place at least after Premiere and Final Cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Sony didn't realy updated Ver. 13 in the last year or more. Hope Ver. 14 will bring new staff, especially like better 4K rendering speed and support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisAK Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 What do they mean by "native" ProRes? A native decoder (that doesn't require Quicktime)? A native encoder (which would be very surprising to see on the Windows side)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midloch Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 I use Sony Vegas and I think it is the best editing software. I tried Premiere and FCPX but SV Pro 13 is much easier and much friendly SW :-) I am so glad that SV is not dead! IronFilm and Pavel Mašek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Sony Vegas is the only nle with markers, right? (That and Blender) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kieley Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 By native Prores support do they mean the ability to render it in-program? I'm using Vegas 13 and can edit Prores. It edits probably more smoothly than other compressed formats I've used. Still, I've been using Vegas for 12 years so I'm looking forward to seeing what else this change brings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluefonia Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Liam said: Sony Vegas is the only nle with markers, right? (That and Blender) Not right :-). Final Cut got markers. Liam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 26 minutes ago, bluefonia said: Not right :-). Final Cut got markers. wow, my bad. looks like they're in most nle's haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shijan Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 The main problem with ProRes in Vegas was that in timeline it was limited to 8 bit only. Even if you force the project to 32 bit float and got 12 bit 4444 source the Quicktime ProRes always stay 8 bit in timeline and final render. And its because Vegas used native Windows Quicktime decoder which is limited o 8 bit system wide. Also Quicktime files got crazy gamma shift when placed to timeline. Maybe they mean they fixed this ancient bugs and added ProRes export option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 The main problem for me is the slow 4K MP4 rendering time, no matter how strong is your CPU or GPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimitBreak Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 On 8/2/2016 at 10:28 AM, liork said: The main problem for me is the slow 4K MP4 rendering time, no matter how strong is your CPU or GPU. Someone should review the new version when it comes out, then compare encoding with OpenCl and Nvidia Cuda on different new graphic cards like the RX480 and the 1070 or 1080. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Well, in Vegas 13, if you have a modern GPU from last 2 years or so, you have to disable it on rendering and use only CPU, or the software will freeze... Ivanhurba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsmain Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 On 8/11/2016 at 4:14 AM, liork said: Well, in Vegas 13, if you have a modern GPU from last 2 years or so, you have to disable it on rendering and use only CPU, or the software will freeze... I've had that issue too! Running an Nvidia GTX 970. I'm running a Xeon x5680 hex core processor, so it has to manage the work. Looking forward to 14. Do we know if it's a complete re-write? That may cause me hesitation, as it may be riddled with new bugs. I've owned licenses to Magix Movie edit pro as well. It was alright, but Vegas Pro is a much more professional solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Didn't find any real information about Vegas 14 till now, nothing was published by Magix besides what is written in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LimitBreak Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 So Vegas 14 is out, and saw some reviews on Youtube, I wonder if they increased encoding and exporting speeds drastically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Tested it. Nothing at all! same old bad codecs in MP4. No new GPU card support, only Intel Quick Sync (Which is not supported on my Xeon cpu). Useless for 4K encoding :-( I really cannot understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebv Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Install the miraizon codec to sony vegas and you can render every prores format, uncompress, hq, 422, lt, proxy. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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