Marco Tecno Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 4 hours ago, Dean said: This won't work with Nikon lenses will it? Just Canon? Since you can adapt Nikon lenses to Canon bayonet, I bet you'll be able to use Nikon lenses on the NXL speedbooster through another adapter. So NX1+NXL+NikonToCanon SMGJohn, cisco150, Dean and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Charlie Obuchowski Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 If there is a successfull NXL Smart (Electronic) adapter made, does anyone know a rough price what it could be? I really want to use my NX1 with my canon lenses plus a DJI Ronin. This would come in handy so much for autofocus when using the ronin + I need electronic aperture control for my canon lenses. So much hard work going into this, Keep up the momentum and we'll keep the interest. Last thing we want is a new mirrorless to surpass the NX1 as it'll become dead without the NXL Smart. Good Job Guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlic Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 15 hours ago, Marco Tecno said: Since you can adapt Nikon lenses to Canon bayonet, I bet you'll be able to use Nikon lenses on the NXL speedbooster through another adapter. So NX1+NXL+NikonToCanon Not sure it could be done. The "another" adapter would have to be only 2.5mm thick if I am not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucabutera Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 7 hours ago, Joe Charlie Obuchowski said: If there is a successfull NXL Smart (Electronic) adapter made, does anyone know a rough price what it could be? I really want to use my NX1 with my canon lenses plus a DJI Ronin. This would come in handy so much for autofocus when using the ronin + I need electronic aperture control for my canon lenses. So much hard work going into this, Keep up the momentum and we'll keep the interest. Last thing we want is a new mirrorless to surpass the NX1 as it'll become dead without the NXL Smart. Good Job Guys! https://www.produzionidalbasso.com/project/turn-your-samsung-nx-camera-to-full-frame/ 1 hour ago, carlic said: Not sure it could be done. The "another" adapter would have to be only 2.5mm thick if I am not mistaken. https://www.produzionidalbasso.com/project/turn-your-samsung-nx-camera-to-full-frame/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlic Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 39 minutes ago, lucabutera said: https://www.produzionidalbasso.com/project/turn-your-samsung-nx-camera-to-full-frame/ https://www.produzionidalbasso.com/project/turn-your-samsung-nx-camera-to-full-frame/ Luca can you explain how is it possible for a single booster/adapter to fit all mounts? Lets set aside the mount geometry details itself, but how do you compensate the different flange-to-sensor distances that different manufacturers use in a single adapter? Or rather why is it (clearly) not an issue in the case of the NX-L? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucabutera Posted September 22, 2016 Author Share Posted September 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, carlic said: Luca can you explain how is it possible for a single booster/adapter to fit all mounts? Lets set aside the mount geometry details itself, but how do you compensate the different flange-to-sensor distances that different manufacturers use in a single adapter? Or rather why is it (clearly) not an issue in the case of the NX-L? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 24 minutes ago, carlic said: Luca can you explain how is it possible for a single booster/adapter to fit all mounts? Lets set aside the mount geometry details itself, but how do you compensate the different flange-to-sensor distances that different manufacturers use in a single adapter? Or rather why is it (clearly) not an issue in the case of the NX-L? The flange to sensor is specific for each mount. If nxl adapter makes the flange distance equal to that of the canon mount, then all the mounts with a bigger enough distance will be adaptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessus Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Luca, this is great project! Although I will not contribute in buying NXL it for now since I do not have other systems lenses other than old Minolta one. But I will try to donate once in a while to keep it moving. By the way you should give more options other then 3 Euros contibution. Hopefully you will rise enough money to make intelligent adapter. lucabutera and Marco Tecno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMGJohn Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Definitely getting this adapter when my paycheck arrives, it will help future proof my Samsung so that I may use it 50 years from now on, aah do not worry guys Cannon will still be around making overly expensive cameras with dinosaur sensors and processors adapted from Pentium 2. People will still buy those like hotcakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlic Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 5 hours ago, Marco Tecno said: The flange to sensor is specific for each mount. If nxl adapter makes the flange distance equal to that of the canon mount, then all the mounts with a bigger enough distance will be adaptable. So in order to shoot Nikon glass, you should buy the 17$ adaptor for compensating the flange distance and aperture controll? But still you can't use modern canon lenses and have aperture controll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 1 hour ago, carlic said: So in order to shoot Nikon glass, you should buy the 17$ adaptor for compensating the flange distance and aperture controll? But still you can't use modern canon lenses and have aperture controll? Correct. Those adapters are super cheap too. I already bought all of mine in anticipation of receiving my NX-L. I got a C/Y to EF, Nikon to EF, and M42 to EF, don't think I spent more than $30 for all three. Of course there's still no way to control the aperture of any lens electronically, since it's a dumb adapter, there are no electronics. Hence the need to raise money to try and develop one that does have this feature in the future. Marco Tecno, cisco150 and lucabutera 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 The real "deal" would be an intelligent "canon lens to NX body" adapter (non speedbooster), with a good AF speed, for a price comparable to that of Metabones (which is 399$, about 350€). I'd buy one at day ZERO. Of course, the choice of having an intelligent speedbooster for canon lenses at a higher price would also be welcome, but I wouldn't probably buy it, since I'm more a still shooter after all, and the APS-c crop is nice for the kind of lenses I'd like to use on my NX1 (mainly 300mm and up). lucabutera and Kisaha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlic Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 14 hours ago, Parker said: Correct. Those adapters are super cheap too. I already bought all of mine in anticipation of receiving my NX-L. I got a C/Y to EF, Nikon to EF, and M42 to EF, don't think I spent more than $30 for all three. Of course there's still no way to control the aperture of any lens electronically, since it's a dumb adapter, there are no electronics. Hence the need to raise money to try and develop one that does have this feature in the future. Ok. So the possibility of a smart adapter will be considered if and when there is enough funding? And it is not in the developement at the moment? It would be great if you could buy a dumb adapter now, and later be upgraded to smart. It would help funding too, since the people would not be holding off for the possibilty of a smart one in the near future. Nessus and Marco Tecno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttbek Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Luca: Sorry, very busy week at work, there's a competition we're participating in so we've been trying to meet those deadlines. I would look now but I don't have have the software for it on the WIndows side of this computer, promise I'll look before I sleep tonight though. carlic: I'm going to try, that's not a question of funding, merely of my free time, my colleague's, and if we have enough info to pull it off. We finally have the parts to get started but he is sick so I'm not sure if we will take a look tomorrow or put it off until next weekend. If all people need is aperture control, that is a much easier proposition than the full deal and I believe implementation is available online as code for something like an Arduino. I have no intent of doing any manufacturing, if I am successful I will post the code, a full component list, recommended tools, etc... so that others can easily do it themselves. I intend to modify a dumb Canon to NX adapter using contacts from the AF supporting macro extension tubes for both NX and Canon, so a screwdriver, small handsaw, some kind of hotglue or epoxy and those 3 cheap adapters should be all that is needed mechanically. The whole thing should be doable with < 100 USD even if you don't own any of the tools at the start. Miniaturizing components or packing it all neatly into a custom adapter body is a different story, maybe Luca would be interested in that portion if we reach that point. Don't get your hopes too high though, we haven't even really started and it may be quite difficult, we'll see. It's also possible that we face lens by lens challenges, in which case it's not exactly feasible for us to go through every lens on or own, so we would post what lenses it is known to work with and put the code on Github or the like so that others can contribute parameters for their lenses if they figure them out. Pavel Mašek, Parker, Kisaha and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Ttbek, I'd like to live near you so to be able to "participate" in the development and see the advancements with my eyes. Btw, as an ignorant guy about lens protocols, I think the basic commands would work for all of them, while fine tuning af and ois could be lens specific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Ttbek said it right! All I need is aperture control, if it is a speedboster, or not, that's second to me. I am not quite following the hype of the "full frame look", actually for video, I am just the opposite. On a second consideration though, NX lacks a very good fast ultra wide zoom, (a 3rd S lens 10-18, or even 12-24 with 4f or even better, 2.8f), and speedboster could be godsend for one of the excellent EF ones; add here the opposite angle of this, and people could use the excellent long tele zooms of the EF. That stands for Nikon glass too, just EF protocols are more well documented, and there is some work been done already by our Korean friend. Plus, you gain some light to try to stay under 1600.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucabutera Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 Marco Tecno, Otto K, tokhee and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tokhee Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 1 hour ago, lucabutera said: awesome! is that with the hack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucabutera Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 7 hours ago, tokhee said: awesome! is that with the hack? No hack. it's only Samsung NX1 with NXL and Canon 50mm 1.8 tokhee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlic Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Luca can you create an album on flickr and upload more pictures as reference? Im sure it would make even more people excited. Make it an open type and other users will be able to upload their samples as soon as they recieve it. What do you think? Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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