AaronChicago Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I came across this lens used and it's been sitting around. BM just updated to an anamorphic mode on the 4.6K so I wanna try it out. I'm so clueless when it comes to anamorphic. The rear diameter says it's 52mm. So here are my questions: -What adapters would I need to connect it to a 50mm taking lens with a 49mm front thread (Helios) or a 72mm front thread (rokinon)? -The front filter thread says 71mm. What kind of adapter would I need to attach filters that are 72mm? -Would the SLR Magic Rangefinder be useful in this situation as a single focus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpop Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 with anamorphic adapters you want to have taking lens front element not to be too large, the shorter distance from the rear element of adapter to the front glass of the lens the better for the image, I believe Nikkor 50mm f1.8 has 52mm front thread, it is a great, cheap pancake lens and i would recommend it to have if you plan to use anamorphic adapters AaronChicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, bzpop said: with anamorphic adapters you want to have taking lens front element not to be too large, the shorter distance from the rear element of adapter to the front glass of the lens the better for the image, I believe Nikkor 50mm f1.8 has 52mm front thread, it is a great, cheap pancake lens and i would recommend it to have if you plan to use anamorphic adapters That makes sense. The thing that stresses me out the most about anamorphic is focusing. Would the rangefinder be beneficial or is it not worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpop Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 very personal, i had SLR magic, got rid of it, never tried core DNA, but i guess it's the same concept, it makes the whole setup very bulky, would buy Iscorama, but it's 1,5x and close focus is about 2 meters, i don't know, i guess my next step is real anamorphic lenses, freakin expensive here is the test i shot with the SLR Magic Rangefinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 hours ago, bzpop said: very personal, i had SLR magic, got rid of it, never tried core DNA, but i guess it's the same concept, it makes the whole setup very bulky, would buy Iscorama, but it's 1,5x and close focus is about 2 meters, i don't know, i guess my next step is real anamorphic lenses, freakin expensive here is the test i shot with the SLR Magic Rangefinder What was your taking lens, and anamorphic lens? Was there a big difference with the rangefinder on and off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzpop Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 slightly softer with the finder on, but very very little, shot it with Kowa 16H and Nikon AI 50mm1.4, most of the shots wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share Posted August 29, 2016 Is the Singer 16-D plus Helios 44-2 58mm a bad combo? It looks like shit. I can't get it to look halfway decent. There's a big white vignette at the bottom. The pinpoint focus at f5.6 10ft away is still soft. Maybe I should try the Singer on the Nikkor 50mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 16D needs 135mm or over on FF. 16H can go below 85mm on FF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share Posted August 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, ken said: 16D needs 135mm or over on FF. 16H can go below 85mm on FF. Really? When I ordered my clamps from Vid Atlantic they made it sound like 50mm would work on Super35mm. They even have this photo with a Nikkor 50mm (granted its a 5D) http://www.vid-atlantic.com/lensshop/sankorsinger-16d-lens-kit-w-extras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 1 hour ago, AaronChicago said: Really? When I ordered my clamps from Vid Atlantic they made it sound like 50mm would work on Super35mm. They even have this photo with a Nikkor 50mm (granted its a 5D) http://www.vid-atlantic.com/lensshop/sankorsinger-16d-lens-kit-w-extras Impossible. That is why you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted August 29, 2016 Author Share Posted August 29, 2016 Well I have it looking a little better. The white vignette only pops up when a light source is hitting the lens. See below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 For anyone else interested in the Singer 16D don't listen to Ken. 50mm works fine on Super 35mm with the Ursa Mini. No vignetting. Not sure why he was so confident it's "impossible". Bold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 10 hours ago, AaronChicago said: For anyone else interested in the Singer 16D don't listen to Ken. 50mm works fine on Super 35mm with the Ursa Mini. No vignetting. Not sure why he was so confident it's "impossible". What I said is based on FF, nothing wrong. According to TITO's calculator, comparing with 16H, you can see how much difference. By the way, IMO, without vignetting, must be focus at infinity with small aperture to test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 7 hours ago, ken said: What I said is based on FF, nothing wrong. According to TITO's calculator, comparing with 16H, you can see how much difference. By the way, IMO, without vignetting, must be focus at infinity with small aperture to test. I clearly said Super 35mm and you said impossible. Maybe a translation issue? I have tested infinity with small apertures. No problems. Just posting this in case someone down the line is asking about the Singer 16D. The Super Takumar 50mm as the taking lens is a great combo. Much sharper than the Helios and a sturdier aperture ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 5 hours ago, AaronChicago said: I clearly said Super 35mm and you said impossible. Maybe a translation issue? I have tested infinity with small apertures. No problems. Just posting this in case someone down the line is asking about the Singer 16D. The Super Takumar 50mm as the taking lens is a great combo. Much sharper than the Helios and a sturdier aperture ring. Should possibly be able to use 35mm in 4:3 even. AaronChicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 3, 2016 Author Share Posted September 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, tweak said: Should possibly be able to use 35mm in 4:3 even. Nice! I'll have to get a 35 Takumar and try it out. EDIT: Just found this. Look's like it's definitely possible on the Ursa Mini. tweak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 I can shoot with all my scopes at 35mm on the 7D in 4:3 Raw. On the Elmoii I can even use a 28mm. AaronChicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timotheus Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 2 hours ago, AaronChicago said: EDIT: Just found this. Look's like it's definitely possible on the Ursa Mini. Aaron, that vid sure looks good but it's made with an 'anamorfake'...Just a modified oval aperture + crop, no true anamorphic glass used ;-) Btw, Takumar 35mm F2 is a very nice lens. AaronChicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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