Super Members Mattias Burling Posted August 30, 2016 Super Members Share Posted August 30, 2016 A handle would be killer. I remember being a tiny bit surprised that there wasn't one for the original xc10. This just got very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 It says "audio" on the cover, so I guess it's a breakout like on the C100, with a multipin connector that carries audio from a top handle. That's a good thing, though I don't think I'll upgrade for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 57 minutes ago, JR Lipartito said: I was thinking that exact same thing. If you look at the top-down image of the leaked photos, you'll see that the accessory shoe on top is not a hot-shoe for attaching a flash like the original XC10 has, it's a cold shoe with a screw hole, just like the C100 mkII has for mounting the XLR handle. The first image attached is the leaked XC15 and below that is the same angle on the XC10. Very good spotting! I'd assumed it was just one audio input for XLR and nothing else but this does indicate a handle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 3 hours ago, Jimmy said: Do you go on refrigerator forums and post about refrigerators that don't interest you too? Don't shoot the messenger. Just thought you guys would be interested. It's like going in an appliance store to peruse... Then saying you ain't interested in the refrigerator, but enough to tell your friend, who is actually looking for a fridge... "Yo! There is a sale on this fridge here." BTW, I do that all the time... When my wife wants to go shopping and drags me along... I peruse the electronic section... Walk through bestbuy... To pass the time, get to know the latest gadgets.... Stay a top of things in terms of tech... Don't be all touchy and heart broken if someone said something bad about your camera. Even if it is as simple as "I'm not interested."? Flynn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 It's a purposeful rig if it suits your purpose. As such it's fine. I have a client that shoots outdoor tourism travel stuff, so this would be an ideal camera for that. Somehow it's amazing that folks have high expectations for gear that's not trying to exceed any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny G. Taillon Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: I thought that but why have 1 XLR jack... Needs 2 Maybe it's the same kind of audio connector found on the C300 MKI and MK II, where you would plug in an external module (with 2 XLR) and mount it on the hot shoe.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Del Real Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 27 minutes ago, Danny G. Taillon said: Maybe it's the same kind of audio connector found on the C300 MKI and MK II, where you would plug in an external module (with 2 XLR) and mount it on the hot shoe.. Already mentioned in posts before yours. I think the addition of a shoe mount XLR adapter is a good upgrade but I hope they also add ND adjustments as well. tomsemiterrific 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thpriest Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 16 hours ago, Philip Lipetz said: i tested the new firmware with high ISO HD. was not not happy with results. Why was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 57 minutes ago, mkabi said: Don't be all touchy and heart broken if someone said something bad about your camera. Even if it is as simple as "I'm not interested."? It was a joke. I just found it funny that you came here to simply post that you were not interested... There are about 5000 cameras that I am not interested in... I just forget about them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsemiterrific Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 CANON SHOULD TAKE NOTE: What I'm seeing here is a very large response to Andrew's commentary in a VERY short time--less than a day. This tells me there is a lot of interest in this camera everyone mocked and hated not all that long ago--mocked and hated without actually trying. I'd really look forward to a more in-depth review of the XC10 by Andrew--and let's hope there's more under the hood of the XC15 than we see outwardly. Let's think good thoughts to help make it happen. Canon, don't screw this up! 2 hours ago, ebo said: I use the XC10 next to my 1D C, you can use the same Kinotehnik loupe on both camera's, works perfect ( better than the xc10 canon loupe ) What model Kinotehnik are you talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebo Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, tomsemiterrific said: CANON SHOULD TAKE NOTE: What I'm seeing here is a very large response to Andrew's commentary in a VERY short time--less than a day. This tells me there is a lot of interest in this camera everyone mocked and hated not all that long ago--mocked and hated without actually trying. I'd really look forward to a more in-depth review of the XC10 by Andrew--and let's hope there's more under the hood of the XC15 than we see outwardly. Let's think good thoughts to help make it happen. Canon, don't screw this up! What model Kinotehnik are you talking about. this one, see photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Mason Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 4K 60p mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 50 minutes ago, Luke Mason said: 4K 60p Yeah, I may pay more for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsemiterrific Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 hours ago, ebo said: this one, see photo I actually have a one like that but no way to attach it securely--it's a real pain to deal with. The Zacuto adds weight and bulk, but it is stable and problem free once it's secured. How do you attach this on? 4 hours ago, Mattias Burling said: A handle would be killer. I remember being a tiny bit surprised that there wasn't one for the original xc10. This just got very interesting. A lot of things might be added, but I'd avoid anything that adds bulk or weight---not completely avoidable altogether, but a goal, IMO, to try to maintain. Many other things are much more important in my view: an additional level of ND filter would be great to eliminate the need for an external Variable ND altogether. Better AF if not DPAF, better MF--I hate the type of MF on this lens--maybe I just don't know how to use it, but a camera man's performance depends upon practice, and practice involve muscle memory training and repetition---something impossible with the MF on this lens. I love shooting MF with the 1dC...I'd prefer having the traditional MF on the XC10. Another one or two assign buttons would also be great, and the one push AF is not always dependable for me--especially if the exposure isn't near ideal. A few more levels of F-stop would be appreciated, and more zebra levels. If I could get all these improvements I'd be happy to pass on a handle or similar such things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat33 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'll be very very surprised if there's anything more than the audio connector - I just can't see Canon adding 4K 60p, or even DPAF without more of a redesign of the body and so soon after initial release (was available for sale June 2015) -this is Canon not Sony we are talking about. tomsemiterrific 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted August 30, 2016 Super Members Share Posted August 30, 2016 Those things all sound like something that would be in a new model. This however is likely just a xx5 version. So you are going to have to have some patience. (Its been said already, compare the xa20/25, xa30/35, xf100/105, xf200/205) mat33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 30, 2016 Administrators Share Posted August 30, 2016 XC10 Mark II or an XC20 would be a replacement. An XC10 / XC15 is just like the XA30 (standard model) and XA35 (extra port). It's all in the name. It would be a big break with tradition for Canon to make a major change on a 'XX-5' model. mat33 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 2 hours ago, tomsemiterrific said: How do you attach this on? In the immortal words of the worst music creators on the planet: "Fcking magnets, how do they work? And I don’t wanna talk to a scientist Y’all motherfckers lying, and getting me pssed." Kinotehnik be keeping it real, yo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 My XC10 with my C100MkII top handle (pretending to be) attached. In reality it'd be more flush and low profile as I've had to add an additional hotshoe to put it in place. I imagine Canon will go for something smaller but using the same unit doesn't seem outside the realms of possibility. Considering the XC10 compliments the C100 so well it'd make some sense. A unit like Sony's for the A7 cameras would be much more compact but wouldn't integrate a handle.. I made my own top handle for my XC10 - using a Smallrig hotshoe handle and Beachtek MMC-2 - which works great as an audio unit. No XLR but with a radio mic and VMP it offers v good sound, audio controls and the top handle works great with the 5-axis for stadicam like shots. Also it can be added, detached quickly just like the C100: mercer and Thpriest 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 UPDATE: According to Cinema5D it's the MA-400 unit designed for the C300MkII that is intended to be used with the XC15. No top handle but smaller size. Also new (and of more interest for me) - waveform monitor and shutter angle option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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