Administrators Popular Post Andrew Reid Posted August 25, 2016 Administrators Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2016 Here's a list of great things about the 5D Mark IV... Read the full article to see the list andrgl, Henry Gentles, kaylee and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandro Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 At this point the problem is not Canon but people that keep buying it. tomsemiterrific, sanveer, Marco Tecno and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 25, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted August 25, 2016 Who is more stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Finally, the 8-15mm fisheye has a purpose. No more black vignette! Eno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 To be fair, it's less of a crop than four-thirds. But also to be fair, you're paying full frame prices for it. (edit: Written before reading the article that already makes this point) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 ..and that's why I am sticking with NX for the next few years, and I do not even dare to complain to Samsung, they quited, but they delivered first! Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 So Canon's latest 3k+ camera can barely compete with an officially dead camera like NX1. Makes me glad to have decided to invest more in this dead system in the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 They really only have like, one edge in the market and that's the "Canon" color thing imo. Because honestly if we're going to continue making 8-bit banding machines in 2016 for video work, (Who'd have thought we'd point one of these things at the sky) - Everybody else is killing them on features. They're just pushing their C-line. If you want C-log from Canon, you'll get it at a ridiculous price. MediaMan and Dave Maze 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 25, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted August 25, 2016 Aside from the 1D C their C-line can't do decent stills. I want both in one camera. GH5 it is then! 6 minutes ago, MattH said: To be fair, it's less of a crop than four-thirds. But also to be fair, you're paying full frame prices for it. It's not the crop by itself which is the issue, it is the mismatch between the lens mount and the sensor crop size. On a Micro Four Thirds camera the lenses are designed to fit the 2x crop sensor. And the lack of mirror means special optical designs like the Metabones Speed Booster XL are possible, effectively giving you a 1.3x crop of your full frame Canon lenses instead of 2x. So I don't even consider the GH4 as a 2x crop camera. The 5D Mark IV is a 1.74x crop camera and stuck with it. You pay that much money for a full frame camera, you expect it to shoot full frame.... no? You expect it to have LOG as well!! Eno, Nikkor and Henry Gentles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Aside from the 1D C their C-line can't do decent stills. I want both in one camera. GH5 it is then! Thanks for the article that I shared. Agree on every point. Agree too with your comment: I want both in one camera. The GH5 will take more than decent stills, but it absolutely wont make the job for me. I need D810 level still quality. So I might grab a D810 + GH5, but then 2 cameras with 2 systems of lens.... And my main use is travel (think 5-10 days trek in Rockies, Patagonia, Iceland, ...) so I am quite pissed. I tought the A7RII was the one. Bought it, traveled 2 weeks in Cuba and it appeared it was not enjoyable to use (such a pain to switch from stills setup to video setup, poor ergonomics, etc). But here we are the GH5 might be the best camera on the market for its size for video, and the D810 is the best world landscape camera under 20k$ (phase one anyone..?) So for the moment I don't see a better option. Even if Nikon releases a good 4k option in the next DSLR, it wont have some of the amazing GH5 features like IBIS, good slowmo (hopefully),... I just wish we get a 4k60p and minimum 120fps Full HD as clean as in an RX100, as well as A PROPER AUTOFOCUS IN VIDEO like the A6300, PLEASE PANA! Then I am sold. Oh and BTW imagine if the GH5 has a good video AF: that would be the BEST gimbal camera ever. Light, slowmo, good AF for tracking on the gimbal, and the power of its 5 axis IBIS + gimbal... wow that will look smooth as hell Christina Ava 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattH Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Aside from the 1D C their C-line can't do decent stills. I want both in one camera. GH5 it is then! It's not the crop by itself which is the issue, it is the mismatch between the lens mount and the sensor crop size. On a Micro Four Thirds camera the lenses are designed to fit the 2x crop sensor. And the lack of mirror means special optical designs like the Metabones Speed Booster XL are possible, effectively giving you a 1.3x crop of your full frame Canon lenses instead of 2x. So I don't even consider the GH4 as a 2x crop camera. The 5D Mark IV is a 1.74x crop camera and stuck with it. You pay that much money for a full frame camera, you expect it to shoot full frame.... no? You expect it to have LOG as well!! Exactly, you could get wide angle with a sigma 8-16 or a tokina 11-16, but then you are still going to have to buy full frame lenses to cover that focal range. All that money for all that hassle. Doesn't draw me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyger11 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 "Wait for us, we're the leaders!" - Canon Looking forward to GH5, LX200, and the Sony a9. Yeesh. wolf33d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Guys, come on. If Anley Kubri can get behind the 5div, we can too. I for one can't wait to see 00 Space Ody Jimbo and PannySVHS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurtinMinorKey Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Checked back into EOSHD for the first time in a while to see if Andrew would flame Canon for the 5D mk IV. Was not disappointed. Cheers! Dave Maze 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Oh fuck... it's confirmed, no GH5 before 2017 http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-no-full-gh5-announcement-photokina/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 It's the crop factor that really kills me, I expected a lack of log and the inferior codec. Honestly a Mark 3 is a much better option compared to this due to raw. Bring on the D750 successor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 25, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted August 25, 2016 15 minutes ago, Liam said: Guys, come on. If Anley Kubri can get behind the 5div, we can too. I for one can't wait to see 00 Space Ody Anley Kubri loves his Cano amera Beware of AL Ucking aughty robot Deleting thos illy massiv MJPE iles fro Anley's driv An I love th scen in ehistoric tim wit th monkeys... Datin ack to MJPEG times at the beginni of th univers Liam and Justin Bacle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Ashcraft Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 As long as the 1080P footage is sharp, I'm not too concerned about the 4K crop factor. I still rarely if ever shoot in 4K, and really have no desire to for as long as I can help it. 4 years from now might be a different story of course but as a hybrid stills/video (mostly stills) shooter this camera ticks a lot of boxes for me. Christina Ava 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubanCam Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Now this leaves Sony is the only camera maker Gives FF 4K video with a versatile lens mount and hopefully their next iterations would have better video quality. As a video shooter, i Switched to Panasonic from Canon when GH2 realesed and never regretted. My hope is that GH5 would have no crop factor in 4K mode. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 25, 2016 Author Administrators Share Posted August 25, 2016 6 minutes ago, wolf33d said: Oh fuck... it's confirmed, no GH5 before 2017 http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-no-full-gh5-announcement-photokina/ If true then the timing is weird. It's already quite overdue compared to previous release cycles for the GH1,GH2,GH3,GH4. I wonder if they have had a late major change - such as new sensor - to incorporate? All speculation at this point.... sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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