IronFilm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 10 hours ago, tweak said: So basically what you should have said is you have no idea. Why give advice if you don't really know? Meh, you're debating over little tiny specifics now (aside from the SD/CF point, which fair enough was my mistake, and I immediately admitted to. Shit happens, I'm only human). Otherwise, it doesn't change my overall conclusion and recommendation here. That 5Dmk3 is the main Canon with considering for ML rain, others (specifically 50D / 7D / 5D mk2) are just worth considering if you get it at a very sharp price (due to issues they've got vs 5Dmk3 / BMMCC, such as the 7D's aliasing and not so great lowlight). With BMMCC being the main one worth considering after (or even before) the 5Dmk3 (and of course BMPCC / BMCC MFT also being worthy mentions). So in the end.... the conclusion is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Not really, as you totally wrote it off to begin with, which shows you've never actually used it, which should be something you really should mention in your post. Also I think your weighting of how bad 7D raw vs 5D3 raw is isn't really accurate, if you check reviews you will find people intercutting the two and giving 7D praise for it's price. When you consider a used 7D is about 1/4 the price of a 5D3 then it's a worthy option to consider. Is the 5D3 4 times better than the 7D Raw? I don't think so. It all depends on your needs and budgets as to what is the correct camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 14, 2016 Super Members Share Posted September 14, 2016 The 5Dmkiii is dropping fast now. So a 7D is more like a 1/3. But I agree, budget and needs is what decides. If one needs full frame then the 7D is out anyway. And of course the opposite if s35 is once preference. A few questions, does the 7D record raw slowmo? At what resolution can you get continuous? Does it have a 1:1 Crop mode and if so, is it centered? tweak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 23 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said: A few questions, does the 7D record raw slowmo? At what resolution can you get continuous? Does it have a 1:1 Crop mode and if so, is it centered? Yep, I'm pretty sure you can use the 60p feature like 5D3 (I haven't done it myself). Yes it has 1:1 crop mode and I'm pretty sure it's centred, the preview in LCD has accurate framing anyway. You can check resolutions here - http://rbrune.github.io/mlraw/ (but it's just under 1080p for continuous record, unless you shoot a 4:3 or 5:4 aspect). Mattias Burling 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 5 hours ago, tweak said: Yep, I'm pretty sure you can use the 60p feature like 5D3 (I haven't done it myself). Yes it has 1:1 crop mode and I'm pretty sure it's centred, the preview in LCD has accurate framing anyway. You can check resolutions here - http://rbrune.github.io/mlraw/ (but it's just under 1080p for continuous record, unless you shoot a 4:3 or 5:4 aspect). I love my 50D, so much so I am planning a micro short film for it, but I have to admit I am slightly fearing the lack of a scratch track for audio synching. Do you get good recording speeds while recording audio with the 7D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 40 minutes ago, mercer said: I love my 50D, so much so I am planning a micro short film for it, but I have to admit I am slightly fearing the lack of a scratch track for audio synching. Do you get good recording speeds while recording audio with the 7D? Yep, the audio is good with MLVraw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 I have got tearing in crop mode with 7D. but my compact flash isn't fast enough. I will do more test with a friend's CF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 On 13 September 2016 at 9:40 PM, tweak said: Like what? Rattle some names off if you know of some around the same price. I got some names. Let's do this, punk. I challenge you to an EOSHD rap battle: Yo' 7d RAW is a mutha f€c7!n& wh0r£! Panny BM Sony Nikon kick it down to the floor! Canon colour science is a thing that we adore, hey! But yo' 7D colours get all pi$$€d on with moire! IronFilm and Mattias Burling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 2 hours ago, Lintelfilm said: I got some names. Let's do this, punk. I challenge you to an EOSHD rap battle: Yo' 7d RAW is a mutha f€c7!n& wh0r£! Panny BM Sony Nikon kick it down to the floor! Canon colour science is a thing that we adore, hey! But yo' 7D colours get all pi$$€d on with moire! Lol. Did I hear the mic drop? Lintelfilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 9 hours ago, Lintelfilm said: I got some names. Let's do this, punk. I challenge you to an EOSHD rap battle: Yo' 7d RAW is a mutha f€c7!n& wh0r£! Panny BM Sony Nikon kick it down to the floor! Canon colour science is a thing that we adore, hey! But yo' 7D colours get all pi$$€d on with moire! so that's a no then... cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 11 hours ago, tweak said: so that's a no then... cheers. Nope it's a "I ain't gettin in no waste-o'-mah-time-camera-geek-word-battle with no green-assed bunny, mofo" kinda answer. xx IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Lintelfilm said: Nope it's a "I ain't gettin in no waste-o'-mah-time-camera-geek-word-battle with no green-assed bunny, mofo" kinda answer. xx I got your no the first time, no need to repeat yourself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 29/8/2016 at 3:11 AM, IronFilm said: 7D with ML raw is shit. 5Dmk3 with ML raw is great. I'd also suggest BMMCC or secondhand BMPCC. Or maybe even BMCC MFT if you don't care about the weight. FS5 / KineMINI / Terra / UM4.6K / FS700 / etc are all good as well if your budget stretches up that high. On 28/8/2016 at 1:23 AM, dhessel said: Sony FS5, not sure what you consider affordable. I was looking for FS5 that you recommended to me but then I have found this article that say it's internal codec is really poor. http://www.eoshd.com/2016/01/sony-fs5-codec-problems-and-4k-ripped-edges-bug/ did sony fixed those problems with a firmware update? it was better if I could knew it before bacause then I adviced this camera to some friends who wanted to buy new gear. nothing wrong about that and I had to search some deep review by myself so it's my fault, but may I suggest you to tell also the "biggest cons" when suggest a camera to someone. this would have been a great help for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 I recommend dvxuser as better and more diverse source of info FS5:http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/forumdisplay.php?219-PMW-Cameras-(-amp-temp-FS7) And yes it has had firmware updates. Dan Wake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhessel Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 6 hours ago, Dan Wake said: I was looking for FS5 that you recommended to me but then I have found this article that say it's internal codec is really poor. http://www.eoshd.com/2016/01/sony-fs5-codec-problems-and-4k-ripped-edges-bug/ did sony fixed those problems with a firmware update? it was better if I could knew it before bacause then I adviced this camera to some friends who wanted to buy new gear. nothing wrong about that and I had to search some deep review by myself so it's my fault, but may I suggest you to tell also the "biggest cons" when suggest a camera to someone. this would have been a great help for me. I would have mentioned it as a con but it was fixed via firmware a long time ago. So it is not really relevant anymore. Dan Wake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 thanks guys! in your opinion fs5 is a perfect camera? thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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