tugela Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 6 hours ago, mercer said: And honestly, I still watch most movies on a 720p JVC, so what do I know... It looks good to me. That is the reason why you think it looks "better". Watch on a 65" screen and the differences become obvious pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiago Rosa-Rosso Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Sharpness is not beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I have to say, I'm quite interested in this camera for stills and personal video stuff. Not bothered about the lack of 4k. 1080p is perfectly fine for a long while yet. If the price is good I'll probably pick one up! Question is... will the 5-axis work with EF lenses with the EF-M adapter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Oliver Daniel said: I have to say, I'm quite interested in this camera for stills and personal video stuff. Not bothered about the lack of 4k. 1080p is perfectly fine for a long while yet. Nah, for me it's not. Since july this year I don't even have any HD screen at home or work, lol. Watching HD material is fine with proper upscaling through madvr, as long as it isn't Canon HD (most Canon DSLRs don't even resolve full SD resolution in 1080p...) Color is not a problem for me. Never had any problems grading Sony, Panasonic, RED, Canon, ARRI or other footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 Does anyone have experience of using any of the EOS-M cameras with the official EF adapter? (presumably it's actually an EF-S adapter, right?). How does it work for AF, IS, etc? How secure is the fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 49 minutes ago, Lintelfilm said: Does anyone have experience of using any of the EOS-M cameras with the official EF adapter? (presumably it's actually an EF-S adapter, right?). How does it work for AF, IS, etc? How secure is the fit? Yes. Everything works as normal, fit is tight, obviously AF is slower than a mirrored body. I'm going to build a custom EF-M speed booster soon with a Lens Turbo ii and the EF adapter combined. Will post it up here when I'm done, I just got another original M for 100bucks new after my first finally died, such a good priced camera. Lintelfilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 hours ago, tugela said: It is not technically easy. If it was they would have done it. The hardware can't do it without a fan in the camera or using bit rate heavy storage. About $300-350 is what it is worth. What are you talking about? Canon's HD bit rates in DSLRs is relatively low. And pretty much all of it looks worse than downsized 4K. According to BH specs the 80D shoots at 90Mbps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 As said elsewhere, Canon in late 2016 is less or at most equal to Samsung in late 2013 (with NX30). We can only hope that in few more years (say 2-3) they'll have a mirrorless product comparable with NX1. And in other 2-3 (that's 4-6 from now) something that will be better than NX1. iamoui 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Lintelfilm said: Does anyone have experience of using any of the EOS-M cameras with the official EF adapter? (presumably it's actually an EF-S adapter, right?). How does it work for AF, IS, etc? How secure is the fit? I haven't used one, but I think ef lenses will work with the adapter as well 9 minutes ago, Marco Tecno said: As said elsewhere, Canon in late 2016 is less or at most equal to Samsung in late 2013 (with NX30). We can only hope that in few more years (say 2-3) they'll have a mirrorless product comparable with NX1. And in other 2-3 (that's 4-6 from now) something that will be better than NX1. There will never, ever be a camera as capable as the NX1. I know because you come to every thread about a new camera and remind us. The Chris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 hours ago, tugela said: It is not technically easy. If it was they would have done it. The hardware can't do it without a fan in the camera or using bit rate heavy storage. . It is easy. They just protect their cinema line. 4K is everywhere from phone to APSC mirorless to FF now. Just canon doesn't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, mercer said: I haven't used one, but I think ef lenses will work with the adapter as well There will never, ever be a camera as capable as the NX1. I know because you come to every thread about a new camera and remind us. Mercer, I never said that. For now, there is not, but that does not mean that it will never be. As I said, perhaps canon will have one in few years from now. I am indeed looking at both canon and nikon, hoping they'll create one decent nx1 replacement, for when I'll need it. I guess your post did not add much to the discussion about m5, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, mercer said: I haven't used one, but I think ef lenses will work with the adapter as well I'm more concerned that EF-S lenses work with it. EF-S mount is able to take EF and EF-S lenses. Third party EF adapters, EF Speed Boosters, EF mount cameras, etc, have trouble with Canon's own EF-S lenses because the mount is proprietary. That's also why 3rd party APSC lenses - like the Sigma ART zooms - work fine with Speed Boosters etc - they are EF mount not EF-S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, Lintelfilm said: I'm more concerned that EF-S lenses work with it. EF-S mount is able to take EF and EF-S lenses. Third party EF adapters, EF Speed Boosters, EF mount cameras, etc, have trouble with Canon's own EF-S lenses because the mount is proprietary. That's also why 3rd party APSC lenses - like the Sigma ART zooms - work fine with Speed Boosters etc - they are EF mount not EF-S I already said above - It works fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 20 minutes ago, Lintelfilm said: I'm more concerned that EF-S lenses work with it. EF-S mount is able to take EF and EF-S lenses. Third party EF adapters, EF Speed Boosters, EF mount cameras, etc, have trouble with Canon's own EF-S lenses because the mount is proprietary. That's also why 3rd party APSC lenses - like the Sigma ART zooms - work fine with Speed Boosters etc - they are EF mount not EF-S Do you have the 17-55mm too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 I used to use the 17-55 on the eos m with canon EF adapter (also Vlitrox). It's just a pass-through, there's no reason why any lens shouldn't work. Lintelfilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubrickian Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 2 hours ago, Lintelfilm said: Does anyone have experience of using any of the EOS-M cameras with the official EF adapter? (presumably it's actually an EF-S adapter, right?). How does it work for AF, IS, etc? How secure is the fit? It works great. Everything operates perfectly. Lintelfilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 According to canon rumors, the M5 will have more AF Points than any other camera. It will also feature touchscreen focus while looking through the EVF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, mercer said: According to canon rumors, the M5 will have more AF Points than any other camera. It will also feature touchscreen focus while looking through the EVF. This is exactly what I want from a canon stills camera. I have loads of EF lenses but can't use them to their full potential for stills on Sony. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 18 minutes ago, Oliver Daniel said: This is exactly what I want from a canon stills camera. I have loads of EF lenses but can't use them to their full potential for stills on Sony. Yeah, this camera seems more and more appealing with every spec. I've honestly never used, nor own an ef lens, but with the DPAF and focus points, I am seriously considering getting one. I was thinking about a constant f4 zoom, but the 35mm f2 IS sounds a little more practical for my purposes. Canon has some refurbished ones on sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lintelfilm Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 4 hours ago, mercer said: Do you have the 17-55mm too? No. I decided to go with the Sigma Art zooms and the Canon STM zooms as a complete lens kit. That way it's always a clear choice - image or pragmatism. If I had the 17-55 I'd always be conflicted. If I could only have one set of lenses it'd be the Canon 17-55 and 70-200 f/2.8 mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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