liork Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 3 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: People were referring to an 18MP or 20MP sensor, or even the 20MP sensor already out in the Olympus E-M1 II as being capable of 6K because they read this on the Panasonic website about 18 megapixel = 6K I suggest you check the aspect ratio of 6000 x 3000, which is indeed 18MP but heavily letter boxed compared to what is needed for 3:2 or :4:3 photography. In actual fact you will need to go to at least 24MP in total for 6K video AND 3:2 photos. Very few photographers will be ok with a 2:1 aspect ratio! So I find it highly unlikey the sensor will be a total of 6000 x 3000 in such a wide aspect ratio as it is also sold Panasonic's flagship 4:3 stills camera! If take the Panasonic 6K photo press release info literally you will be mislead as to the true nature of the sensor and megapixel count. Thats what I thought as well, this text is not logical at all, if 6K Photo mode is "Approx.6000 x 3000 effective pixel count" then it cannot be 4:3 or 3:2 as they write... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted December 17, 2016 Administrators Share Posted December 17, 2016 Furthermore if the sensor supports 6000 pixels width images and doesn't cheat, say upscaling 5K to 6K on the image processor from a lower resolution sensor, then this sensor must be different to the one in the Olympus E-M1 Mark II and with a higher megapixel count, which nobody really wanted or asked for as it comes at the expense of dynamic range and low light abilities. Also why would Olympus go to all that trouble to do oversampling from 5K and incredibly low rolling shutter on what is predominantly a stills camera, if that sensor wasn't also designed for Panasonic? Indeed didn't Panasonic actually make / or design the sensor in the original E-M1? The E-M5 was a Sony chip but I remember a tear-down that revealed the E-M1's chip to be a Panasonic CMOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 I think "6K Photo" will be less than exactly 6000 pixels wide. 5760 maybe? That's the exact same as calling 3840 pixels "4K". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted December 18, 2016 Administrators Share Posted December 18, 2016 Is that a 4:3 aspect ratio clue Mr Neumann? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Is that a 4:3 aspect ratio clue Mr Neumann? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (best viewed in original quality in NLE of your choice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted December 18, 2016 Administrators Share Posted December 18, 2016 Blacks are crushed. iamoui, Orangenz, Cinegain and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 Just now, Andrew Reid said: Blacks are crushed. I know, I know. I pushed the grade way too far. This is a bit off topic but...what is your New Years Resolution going to be this year, Andrew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted December 18, 2016 Administrators Share Posted December 18, 2016 6K! Neumann Films and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: 6K! Not a bad New Years Resolution! Seems like a sweet spot for Anamorphic shooters to finish in 4K. Possibly even desqueeze up to 8K and then scale down by 2X to get that higher fidelity? Would that work? I mean, 6K is kind of a no man's land as far as finishing goes, so you might as well use that to get a better 4K finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 5 hours ago, Neumann Films said: I know, I know. I pushed the grade way too far. This is a bit off topic but...what is your New Years Resolution going to be this year, Andrew? Don't know about Andrew, but I'm very partial to drinking 4992 glasses of water over 3744 days. Hmm, that will take me several new years resolutions... Neumann Films 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 16 minutes ago, Orangenz said: Don't know about Andrew, but I'm very partial to drinking 4992 glasses of water over 3744 days. Hmm, that will take me several new years resolutions... Damn, so that's like a New Decades Resolution or something? Not a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 6 hours ago, Neumann Films said: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (best viewed in original quality in NLE of your choice) Hi Neumann, if you divide the E M1 II total pixel count by GH5 number, then multiply it by 10, do you get result of 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted December 18, 2016 Share Posted December 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Neumann Films said: Damn, so that's like a New Decades Resolution or something? Not a bad idea. Better for me than drinking Mountain Dew, but I have a sneaking suspicion not cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 On 17/12/2016 at 1:25 AM, Neumann Films said: I'm sure it will be good news, when it's announced. Thats good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 On 12/18/2016 at 8:10 PM, Neumann Films said: I know, I know. I pushed the grade way too far. This is a bit off topic but...what is your New Years Resolution going to be this year, Andrew? I guess there is no chance of swearing off cooked meat in the New Year? Cinegain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I'm pro resolutions. But uncooked would be the shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 7 hours ago, Cinegain said: I'm pro resolutions. But uncooked would be the shit! For sure! Unfortunately uncooked meat requires a bigger serving plate (due to all of the juices) than what my oven can hold at the moment. So if I were to serve uncooked meat, it would likely only be possible outside of my current oven. If at all. Never know though! My New Years Resolution was to clear the queue of projects and sloth around for a week straight. Looks like that dream could become reality... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Till January 4th I guess these will be the longest 9min & 25sec of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 7 hours ago, Don Kotlos said: Till January 4th I guess these will be the longest 9min & 25sec of my life. LOL Luke, people are all crazy with your NDA... Can't they allow a time for a break? It's Christmas time, after all! :-) Neumann Films 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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