sudopera Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 For now they can't talk pretty much about anything at all, so I'm guessing they are not that close to final product. It seems to me that the announcement was made too early just to have a flagship model presented at Photokina and to send a message to potential customers to be patient and not run to Olympus, Sony or Fuji. http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/09/20/photokina-2016-panasonic-gh5-questions/ IronFilm, Chrad and Davey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resso Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 They did not reveal the codec, H.265 perhaps or is it too soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 This is a very interesting development by Panasonic, however the details of the camera are far too scarce to get overly excited. Such as: 1. Does it have IBIS (in 4k or just 1080 or nothing)? 2. Can it output 4k60p 10bit over HDMI? 3. Codec/bitrate? 4. Dynamic range? 5. The actual image quality itself - this is usually the pitfall of the "spec monster" cameras. Cinegain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 2 hours ago, resso said: They did not reveal the codec, H.265 perhaps or is it too soon? Too soon was, perhaps, in november 2014, when nx1 arrived with h.265. Now it should be fine. wolf33d 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristan Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 24 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: when someone signs a non disclosure agreement, can they still talk about a product? obviously, they can't reveal First hand knowledge, bUt what about simpLy taLking about tHe proDuct? does anyone have soMe Info that could help me out? Did you get a copy of the NDA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristan Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Fingers crossed that Panasonic will also announce better noise handling & DR. As always, Panasonic announces a product that is pushing the limits of technology and listening to it's customers while Canon plays catch-up with conservative, blandly specced and overpriced products. Unfortunately, Canon will probably out sell everyone. It seems like anyone wanting to take down Canon needs to focus on three things. 1) Glass, because that's the entire reason Canon outsells everyone (lots of headway made here lately). 2) Color, because that's the number 1 reason for not wanting to switch to better specc'ed cameras (lookin' at you Sony). 3) Service, because pro photo/video people need to be taken care of when equipment breaks and they're making a living with the equipment. Canon's pro service is second to none. 6 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: I should probably just play it safe. Also, I just fixed the "Shift" key on my laptop. I can see it now... "(FT5 Rumor) Luke Neumann leaks that new Panasonic GH5 will have the shift key fixed!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 5 hours ago, sudopera said: For now they can't talk pretty much about anything at all, so I'm guessing they are not that close to final product. It seems to me that the announcement was made too early just to have a flagship model presented at Photokina and to send a message to potential customers to be patient and not run to Olympus, Sony or Fuji. http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/09/20/photokina-2016-panasonic-gh5-questions/ Many were assuming that it would be unveiled at Photokina for an October release - I know that I was - so I think the timing of and the reasons for this press release is as you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Neumann Films said: of cOurse we all waNt bEtter dr and noiSe handling buT yOu can't exPect IMPROVEMENTs at the cost of price. Maybe 1.5... What about a proper AF for video like on the A6300 or Canon dual AF or the new Olympus?? and IBIS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreaking Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Ever notice that all of them have 1 or 2 standout features but some big no nos? A6300 - Excellent 4k and Autofocus Olympus - Outstanding stabilization GH4 - Battery life and usability. Canon - DPAF and Colour. Everyone stil doesn't have everything and at the desired price point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Mayer Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 6 hours ago, resso said: They did not reveal the codec, H.265 perhaps or is it too soon? Hopefully their silence on this means they are at least considering it. Wouldnt need 200Mbps then and wouldn't need to swap SD cards so often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamoui Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 So in case anyone missed it. Deciphering Neumann's code, I got: FULLHDMI, ONESTOPIMPROVEMENT (dr or noise handling?) IBISYESAFTBD (IBIS yes, AF to be determined?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 39 minutes ago, Neumann Films said: who knows! both would be awesome. shIft key is Broken agaIn So...sorrY for incorrEct capital letterS. on mondAy, our Feline Took a Big Dump on the keyboard. Haha amazing ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted September 20, 2016 Super Members Share Posted September 20, 2016 3 hours ago, tristan said: As always, Panasonic announces a product that is pushing the limits of technology and listening to it's customers while Canon plays catch-up with conservative, blandly specced and overpriced products. The difference being that Canon "released" cameras, Panasonic"announced". I can do it to, Hey everyone! I would like to announce a new camera. 16K 500fps Raw for $25. My moto is to let Panasony and Canikon play catch up. To be released later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRenaissanceMan Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 The question is, a one stop improvement over what? The G7 already had a 1-1.5 stop improvement over the GH4. Is the GH5 on par with that? Or an additional 1-1.5 stop improvement? Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resso Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I'd say, over GH4 Emanuel and Neumann Films 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 luke, Video will aLways be a priOrity for G-series REgardless of Competition. 709 new features. looking forward to a PREVIEW? sudopera 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 2 hours ago, resso said: I'd say, over GH4 Let's realistically presume that. Even though, the question is very pertinent and sorta wishful thinking from all of us, as well. I bet their upgrade is more based on processing data than sensor related, this time. Hence, internal 10-bit 4:2:2, 4K@60fps, higher bitrate (even still under NDA for now). I hope to be pretty wrong on that one, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEricson Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 I assumed this was 4K/422/10 Bit, but is this only 1080p/422/10bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrad Posted September 21, 2016 Share Posted September 21, 2016 2 hours ago, BenEricson said: I assumed this was 4K/422/10 Bit, but is this only 1080p/422/10bit? 4K 10-bit 4:2:2 up to 30fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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