sanveer Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Everything is the same as already discussed. The G80's only advantage over the GX85 is the weather-sealing and mic in. I am also a little disappointed that they don't have as many features on the LX15 (the paid Vlog etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, sanveer said: The G80's only advantage over the GX85 is the weather-sealing and mic in. I believe it also has a flip-out screen. sgreszcz and sanveer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 I dunno whether this is the Final price, but pocket-lint claims, that the price of the Panasonic G80 is £699 ($911) Body Only. I am guessing, then, that the price of the G80 would be $999 with a kit lenshttp://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138806-photokina-2016-all-the-best-new-cameras-for-2016-from-the-show John Matthews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 11 minutes ago, sanveer said: I dunno whether this is the Final price, but pocket-lint claims, that the price of the Panasonic G80 is £699 ($911) Body Only. I am guessing, then, that the price of the G80 would be $999 with a kit lenshttp://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138806-photokina-2016-all-the-best-new-cameras-for-2016-from-the-show https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1280825-REG/panasonic_dmc_gm85kbody_lumix_dmc_g85_mirrorless_micro.html $697, body only sanveer and Michael Coffee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgreszcz Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, John Matthews said: I believe it also has a flip-out screen. Better viewfinder or same as GX80? John Matthews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, John Matthews said: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1280825-REG/panasonic_dmc_gm85kbody_lumix_dmc_g85_mirrorless_micro.html $697, body only The $697 Body only price is a mistake. B&H seems to have removed that from the search results, though they have inadvertently, forgotten to remove the URL, that you just posted. The price is extremely competitive. I noticed some very interesting features, on this one, from the Imaging Resource website: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-g85/panasonic-g85A.HTM " .. due to the G85's more durable construction (more on that later), the shutter is also quieter than not only the G7 but also the GX85 by about four decibels. Not only is it sturdy, lightweight and compact, but it's also very quiet, making it an excellent choice for events, ceremonies, and other sound-sensitive environments .." Interesting. This must be due to the weather-sealing. I wonder how much the 4 Extra Decibels translates in real terms. Would one actually be able to use it at live events, without a plethora of abuses being hurled. "Panasonic is claiming up to 5-stops of image stabilization correction, besting the 4-stop, first-generation Dual I.S. system of the GX85. According to Panasonic, the new system, by way of the Venus Engine processor, controls both the lens' optical I.S. system and the sensor-shifting mechanism simultaneously for better angle compensation. This new stabilization system should provide up to 5-stops of correction all the way out to an equivalent focal length of about 280mm ..." This will offer one stop of better shake compensation over the GX85. I am suspecting, it is due to the heavier body, and not the MagAlloy front side, like Panasonic Claims. Panasonic may have discovered it by accident. " .. front face of the camera's chassis is solid magnesium alloy, while the top and back panels are both polycarbonate." Interesting ONLY the front side of the camera is magnesium alloy. The back is still, surprisingly, plastic. Drop it, on the front side, if you must "G85 does have in common with the GH4's video options includes Cinelike D and Cinelike V picture styles for increased dynamic range in videos and easier color grading capabilities" I guess everyone knew this would get CinelikeD and CinelikeV. Though, they don't mention anything about VLog, which is appears not to be a feature available. John Matthews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 hour ago, sgreszcz said: Better viewfinder or same as GX80? It's better. The GX80's VF is limited due more to the form-factor- the G80 will be significantly bigger camera than the GX80. sgreszcz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thpriest Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Does the G80 have 422 8 bit internal recording? There seems to be a bit of confusion over this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, Thpriest said: Does the G80 have 422 8 bit internal recording? There seems to be a bit of confusion over this. 8bit 420 internal confirmed by bhphoto video. Not worth the upgrade price. Mat Mayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Mayer Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 All 3 cameras are obsolete now that the GH5 specs have been announced. For 98% of people here imho. Edit: didn't realise the G80 had 4:2:2 when wrote the above. Comment is bullshit. Edit 2: sounds like it is actually 4:2:0, probably. Hmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, Hanriverprod said: 8bit 420 internal confirmed by bhphoto video. Not worth the upgrade price. Where exactly did you read this? I was trying to look for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 9 minutes ago, Mat Mayer said: All 3 cameras are obsolete now that the GH5 specs have been announced. For 98% of people here imho. Not everyone here has the funds to get the latest and greatest. The GX80's popularity on these forums was due to the incredible value offer it represented IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 1 minute ago, sanveer said: Where exactly did you read this? I was trying to look for it. John Matthews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 19, 2016 Author Share Posted September 19, 2016 Just now, John Matthews said: Not everyone here has the funds to get the latest and greatest. The GX80's popularity on these forums was due to the incredible value offer it represented IMO... Exactly. Especially if you are not using many of the video features. 1 minute ago, Hanriverprod said: Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Mayer Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 14 minutes ago, John Matthews said: Not everyone here has the funds to get the latest and greatest. The GX80's popularity on these forums was due to the incredible value offer it represented IMO... I am in that camp of people at the moment. Just got the G7 to partly make £335 from selling GH4. But I think 10 bit 4:2:2 will make a lot of us get a new credit card if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mat Mayer said: I am in that camp of people at the moment. Just got the G7 to partly make £335 from selling GH4. But I think 10 bit 4:2:2 will make a lot of us get a new credit card if need be. You might need to add on top of that a new 4k display, video card, drives, etc. Personally, I'm just going to "rough it" with the GX80 for awhile longer, even after considering some of these cool features in the G80. Dean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 30 minutes ago, sanveer said: Exactly. Especially if you are not using many of the video features. Thanks for posting. Strange, both reps from panasonic saying different specs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LippyLee Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 4k bitrate remains the same, not sure if bumping up to 4:2:2 will result in a perceivable difference in detail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat Mayer Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 This last video is making the rep sweat lol. Will be very interesting to compare the 200 Mbps FZ to the old FZ, plus the 4:2:2 G80 to the G7. Its like previewing certain GH5 specs by themselves. Maybe the G80 move to 4:2:2 will be enough of an improvement for those not needing V Log. andy lee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_tee_vee Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Looks like the engineers STILL haven't figured out Auto ISO + Exposure Comp in manual mode video in all these new releases. GH5 maybe? sgreszcz, Dean and Georgios 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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