sanveer Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 5 hours ago, DBounce said: Oh dear, the karma: I was just watching this video. GoPro won't be able to sleep tonight. But in all fairness, this seems to a very genuine review. And very important. shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 On 28/10/2016 at 9:14 PM, fuzzynormal said: I had my romance with aerials. It's seductive, but it's not enough to build a healthy narrative relationship. Oh my goodness, you will not build a narrative only with it, will you? Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMark Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 9 hours ago, DBounce said: Oh dear, the karma: before i saw this video i was still of the opinion that karma still have certain advantage like using the GoPro cam itself on and off the drone/stabiliser.....then i saw this ...i truly worry for them.... two things hit em the hardest, A) the drone is all over the place, B) i didnt realise the karma drone is so heavy. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Here's a curious Mavic Pro / GoPro Hero 5 / Phantom 4 / Phantom 3 camera comparative: shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Stasinos Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 So, after seeing that video it's an easy decision for me...The "camera IQ pixel peeping" thing has no point when "one" of the compared devices doesn't work as advertised. GoPro will probably adress some of these bugs through firmware updates but you can't turn a potato into a strawberry with software quirks... The bad thing though, that makes me kinda sad, is that there is still no company that can compete with DJI. Monopoly is never a "good" thing. When software updates will get messy in many ways (as it happened many many times before with Phantoms), which company will give us an alternative? Emanuel and shooter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 On 26/10/2016 at 1:09 AM, Emanuel said: on the early reports about the release delay... it does seem to not be confirmed shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 shooter and JazzBox 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 On 28/10/2016 at 9:14 PM, fuzzynormal said: I'd worry less about what you're shooting with and more about if you can narratively justify the shot to begin with. U bet ; ) Here's a first try or test with: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taranis Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 3 hours ago, Emanuel said: The last video is very soft around the edges, there's a thread about this here: http://mavicpilots.com/threads/have-anyone-else-experienced-uneven-focus.717/ Makes me want to wait it out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Indeed. It is not the first time this has been noticed. Because of manual focus? Lens design flaw/issue (remember that's not rare or it is even common to occur with anamorphic lenses, mostly affordable ones) or QC case to comprehend only a part of the production as same as seems to have occurred with Nokia Lumix 1020? shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 3 hours ago, Taranis said: The last video is very soft around the edges This can give an interesting unique filmic feel.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taranis Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 1 minute ago, shooter said: It can give an interesting and unique filmic look... If you can switch that look on and off, then it's fine. But it seems to be a result of some problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Did they remove that plastic dome? I could see that causing this issue. shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 3 hours ago, tweak said: Did they remove that plastic dome? I could see that causing this issue. In certain cases, yes, as it seems to clearly be the case here: shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 ISO1600 footage: Would GoPro ever offer such noiseless night pictures of same or similar kind? ; ) Frankly, jury still rules out to yet have seen... I'd honestly appreciate to see it ! ;-) shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 From new buyers with their fresh videos (the first ones, as for instance, plainly shows where the footage can shine and where not mainly because of a limited codec with such low bitrate : ) Two clips with Bloom's settings: I find it even funny when people complain about sharpness. With this last one, for example, I am using a laptop display 1366 pixels wide. I need to go from 1080p file to 720p file if I want avoid aliasing. To those who haven't seen yet the Cinema5D review, still from Lisbon DJI event: And the next ones to those who have wondered about its narrative use. Tagged as Mavic Pro aerial footage: :-) shooter and Pavel Mašek 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel Mašek Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I just hope that DJI will upgrade their cameras/sensor in Mavic/Phantom. There is no way to upgrade camera on Mavic so (according my opinion) its camera should be better than 2 years old GoPro 4 sensor with just 60Mbps. I do not understand why DJI can still use quite old technology if sensors in smartphones are still better and better every year (and they can handle higher bitrate than 60Mbps). I just wish that there will be Phantom or bigger Mavic one day with similar technology which can be seen in Sony FDR X3000: 4K with 100Mbps + just 8Mpx sensor with "big" pixels + OIS (we can see little shakiness sometimes on Mavic's footage, so why there cannot be OIS if it is in smartphones (?)). These specs together with 1,5x or 2x zoom lens.... that would be my dream drone. Mavic is really great but I will rather wait ;-) Cinegain and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMark Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 23 minutes ago, Pavel Mašek said: I just hope that DJI will upgrade their cameras/sensor in Mavic/Phantom. There is no way to upgrade camera on Mavic so (according my opinion) its camera should be better than 2 years old GoPro 4 sensor with just 60Mbps. I do not understand why DJI can still use quite old technology if sensors in smartphones are still better and better every year (and they can handle higher bitrate than 60Mbps). I just wish that there will be Phantom or bigger Mavic one day with similar technology which can be seen in Sony FDR X3000: 4K with 100Mbps + just 8Mpx sensor with "big" pixels + OIS (we can see little shakiness sometimes on Mavic's footage, so why there cannot be OIS if it is in smartphones (?)). These specs together with 1,5x or 2x zoom lens.... that would be my dream drone. Mavic is really great but I will rather wait ;-) in my opinion, Phantom 5 or 4 pro will move onto such camera tech, which then leaves room for mavic 2 to take the place (in terms of image quality) of current Phantom 4. i think DJI wants certain image quality differentiation between mavic and phantom. im hoping DJI is moving towards modular design for all their lines, for example. you can choose different body (payload) to fit your budget/weight requirement then based on that, you can choose certain camera head. e.g. let say there is a X1 camera, then mavic cna take x1 and x3, then phantom can x1, x3 and the lighter x5. then inpsire 1 can take x1, x3, x5 and x5r etc. Pavel Mašek and Cinegain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 I don't find Phantom 4 any better than Mavic. I find Mavic better than the phantom 4, gopro, etc with their oversharpened settings. I agree with Pavel. Pavel Mašek and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Everyday more clips pop up everywhere. I guess this will be one of the hits in the history of the camera. Take those "unbelievable" remarks with the necessary pint of salt, obviously... : ) Another low light test: To those who still praise action cameras look ; ) beyond the obvious limitations also shown by Mavic, here's some chance to compare both: :P From an Indie perspective: Interesting stability test: Here's a comparative review with Karma: :-) shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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