Dan Wake Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 hello I wish to buy a cheap rig it's my first one I saw those models I'm looking at the specs/images wich is it the most balanced in your opinion? I will mount my canon 7D on top of it, with my canon 50mm f1.8. I use to shoot at max aperture or close so I will need to use my left hand to focus very often (important detail). 1) source with more pics: https://www.amazon.it/Sevenoak-SKVC01-Supporto-fotografiche-Videocamere/dp/B007PR1N84/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1476570254&sr=8-11&keywords=spallaccio 2) source with more pics: https://www.amazon.it/SevenOak-SK-R01-Shoulder-Suppert-59x19x9/dp/B0079X63BQ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 3) source with more pics: https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00GTLZ6SU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H 4) source with more pics: https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B019W91U7G/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3H1KL2PTEXAP1 I'm a little bit oriented over option 3, but I'm scared because I like to get close to peolple when I shoot and I'm scared that having a rig could make them feel unconfortable. what do you think about it? how to handle this problem? thx if you have some tips suggestion ovre other products or even balanced diy projects let me know please! thx a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzBox Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 I had the 2nd one. I used few times with my GH4, but I sold it since it was not really well balanced. At the end I've bought this one that is very good and cheap if you consider you have a good follow focus, a cage etc...: https://www.movofilms.be/movofilms-professional-camera-support-kit.html If you need less things there is also this one:https://www.movofilms.be/filmcity-fc-10w-shoulder-rig-with-counterweight-453.html Hope that helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Yeah, don't think that's really going to make you all that happy. I think some proper entry level rigs are e.g.: Maybe something like this from Kamerar: http://kamerar.com/collections/rigs-stabilizer/products/socom-video-shoulder-rig Or Ginirigs... http://www.ginirigs.net/product-category/dslr-rigs/ Then there's Proaim/Camtree (Cinecity)... https://www.proaim.com/camera-rigs-supports/camera-cages-shoulder-rigs/for-dslr-mirrorless-video-camera.html Or just do something modular you put together yourself. Get a cage or base. A raiser with rod support. A rod displacer. Some rods obviously. Handles. All sturdy but lightweight metal or carbon. A shoulder pad. Magic arm. Movofilms has some decent stuff. Smallrig of course. If you really have no budget... well, maybe hit the casino to atleast double it? And then something like this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Filmcity-Shoulder-Support-Mount-Carbon-Fiber-Rig-Stabilizer-fr-DSLR-Camera-Movie-/122152704355 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Oh Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 13:20 he uses a $20 shoulder mount that works. BopBill and Kisaha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Oh Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 Forgot to mention you can have 2 hands free. CowboyStudio Shoulder Support Pad for Video Camcorder Camera DV / DC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036NMQ7S/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_InSaybC0567QA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Chris Oh said: 13:20 he uses a $20 shoulder mount that works. It seems quite a few online reviewers like to kit out that inexpensive plastic shoulder rig. I've got the same rig, but it's sold under the name of Beike here in Vietnam. Although it is all plastic, it is very durable. I still find it doesn't give enough support, so I may try out the Kamerar eyepiece this afternoon to see if that extra contact point helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 most of these have the camera in front of you so you should get something that has a way to use counterweights on the other side of your shoulder if you will be shooting for long periods of time. Making it heavier this way will not only help balance it making it more comfortable but it will also steady the shots since dslrs are so light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 On 10/16/2016 at 1:01 PM, Chris Oh said: Forgot to mention you can have 2 hands free. CowboyStudio Shoulder Support Pad for Video Camcorder Camera DV / DC https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0036NMQ7S/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_InSaybC0567QA If you're not going to spend mega bucks then I think this is by far the best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeman Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I am gonna third what everyone is saying about the Cowboy Studio rig. you can find it on amazon cheap and it does the job. It just lets you put the cam in a good spot, holds on to your shoulder. I have used this rig so much, definitely a good place to start. Michael Coffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozmorphasis Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Yup, definitely do the cowboy studios rig. It's very nice being able to let go of both hands, and the thing just works. It's got some quirks too, for example, your breathing can affect it more than a traditional shoulder rig because of the front pad that rests pretty low on your torso. Having said that, you can't do better in the cheap range, and the thing is indestructible and folds up nice and small - can throw it in a backpack. Michael Coffee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Bacle Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 I had the first one you posted. It is quite crappy but still better than nothing. I made mine recently with small rigs parts bought separately and the quality/price ratio is very very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountneerMan Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 You should just make one from PVC from home depot. Google PVC shoulder rig and you will find tones of tutorials and examples and you can come up with your own design. Personally I feel like you should either go super cheap eg. PVC from home depot or high end expensive stuff. I rarely fall in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Oh Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, MountneerMan said: You should just make one from PVC from home depot. Google PVC shoulder rig and you will find tones of tutorials and examples and you can come up with your own design. Personally I feel like you should either go super cheap eg. PVC from home depot or high end expensive stuff. I rarely fall in the middle It would take a lot more work and same if not more money if he doesn't have any tools, than the cowboy studios one. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountneerMan Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 39 minutes ago, Chris Oh said: It would take a lot more work and same if not more money if he doesn't have any tools, than the cowboy studios one. :D No tools required. ~$10 worth of piping and fittings and $5 for black duct tape. nvm your right you need a drill and drill bit I forgot about the screw mount part. I always take my tools for granted lol. Having said that I am sure you could find someone who has a shop/drill you could use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 hi! my final choice is between the two rigs shown in the images below. which one do you suggest me to get? 1) basic cowboy studio style shoulder rig. 2) this one is an upgrade with hand grip. it costs about 12 euro more than the first one. my question is does it worth the money? thanks a lot for help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Oh Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 I don't think the plastic grip is worth the extra money. You can find a handle with 1/4 thread made out of metal for about $10USD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted November 2, 2016 Author Share Posted November 2, 2016 28 minutes ago, Chris Oh said: I don't think the plastic grip is worth the extra money. You can find a handle with 1/4 thread made out of metal for about $10USD. thx for help how do you suggest to mount it? I have found handles such as those ones did you meant ones like its? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Oh Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Honestly, I did not need a handle because it rests on your ribs. if you think you need it, get the newer one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I'd say the handle is so dirt cheap extra, why not get it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Bacle Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 I think number 2 in your first post was a better option. I had both and never liked the "cowboy" style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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