Shooting with the Fuji X-T2 in Italy - Samsung NX1 and Sony A6300 beater?

[raf702]

I was very interested in this but the 1.7x crop, no internal log, 10-min 4k clips. Are my main concerns for holding off. Everything else though looks great

[SMGJohn]

17 hours ago, tugela said:

The NX1 general ergonomics is an ideal size IMO. A lot of the mirrorless cameras are too small, while most of the DSLRs (excluding the pure consumer versions) are too big. Just like Goldilocks and the three bears, there is a size that is just right.

Imao a lot about the NX1 was done good, now I am not quite a big fan of the on/off button and the 16-50mm F2-2.85 is a bit meh in how you zoom in and out and focus by electric wiring. 

But really you have to nitpick on the NX1 and of course the infamous in-camera noise reduction in video kicking into high gears at 2000 ISO. 
NX1 in-camera colours are unparalleled, handles nicely and shoots nice pictures and videos with epic colours.

It will be interesting to see what Panasonic did to the GH5 internally and to see the new Sony line, hopefully Sony learned A LOT about their past humongous mistakes like shitty menus and horrid ergonomics they still have not figured out their A line are HUGE cameras too.

[jonpais]

40 minutes ago, raf702 said:

I was very interested in this but the 1.7x crop, no internal log, 10-min 4k clips. Are my main concerns for holding off. Everything else though looks great

I'm pretty sure it's a 1.17 crop, not 1.7x...

[Liam]

26 minutes ago, jonpais said:

I'm pretty sure it's a 1.17 crop, not 1.7x...

1.17x crop of an already 1.5x sensor. Or whatever the numbers are. It's smaller than apsc

[raf702]

1 hour ago, jonpais said:

I'm pretty sure it's a 1.17 crop, not 1.7x...

There you go, but either way, it's smaller than apsc.

 

1 hour ago, Liam said:

1.17x crop of an already 1.5x sensor. Or whatever the numbers are. It's smaller than apsc

Exactly, and how much difference in FOV is it than apsc?

[jonpais]

Here's an illustration of the crop factor with a 35mm f/2 lens, comparing the 1080p image to the 4K image (from Gordon Laing's review at Camera Labs)

 

[Inazuma]

7 hours ago, BookMark said:

very nice video. partly why i love coming onto this site. 

i keep telling myself to hold off until XT2 drops below 1k, but these videos make me want to jump in right now! lol.

one thing did caught my attention tho. Andrew posted this in the Canon thread but i haven't see any mention of it in the main XT2 article:

 

The waxy skin tones Andrew is talking about is likely because he's been using -2 highlights/shadows. I know that is the result I've been getting with those settings

[raf702]

50 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Here's an illustration of the crop factor with a 35mm f/2 lens, comparing the 1080p image to the 4K image (from Gordon Laing's review at Camera Labs)

 

 

It's not bad, useable but wish it didn't crop in for 4k. It is what it is, I guess.

[jonpais]

From all the videos I've seen, many of which have been posted in this forum, I'd say the Fuji 4K is more than just usable.

[ebo]

nice Venice shots, well done!

[Andrew Reid]

1 hour ago, gingercat said:

Nice camera but the grade in this piece is a bit unsubtle in MYHO. 

Can you take a picture of your screen?

I am convinced people have their saturation crazy high or something.

1 hour ago, Inazuma said:

The waxy skin tones Andrew is talking about is likely because he's been using -2 highlights/shadows. I know that is the result I've been getting with those settings

Nope it is same on default levels.

I find the X-Pro 2 and X-T2 absolutely great for places, things and buildings.

It is just the people part this is the problem and I never remember having the same skintone issues with the older Fujis.

I did a professional photoshoot with the X Pro 2 and the JPEGs were not great for skin.

I should have mentioned it in the review but this was about video not JPEGs.

Also I forgot to mention something else... the way you enter video mode is fiddly. You have to slide a lever through 5 positions and it is really tricky to turn, impossible in fact with one hand because it is far away on the left-top side.

I still maintain though that this is going to be the best APS-C 4K mirrorless camera for most people.

The skintones are probably fixable in the grade.

I haven't tried because I switched to the 1D C for the photo shoot with the X Pro 2 rather than having to spend hours in post fixing the raw files.

[AKH]

46 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

I am convinced people have their saturation crazy high or something.

Wide gamut monitors without colour managed playback perhaps?

[Andrew Reid]

I think if it were wide gamut and colour management they'd see less saturation not more.

Maybe it is just taste. Bad taste. Liking stuff to look flat and grey. Who knows. That is in fashion at the moment after all.

[AKH]

3 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

I think if it were wide gamut and colour management they'd see less saturation not more.

Maybe it is just taste. Bad taste. Liking stuff to look flat and grey. Who knows. That is in fashion at the moment after all.

If you view a sRGB gamut image on an 100% AbobeRGB gamut display without colour management, the saturation will be higher than expected.

If you view an AbobeRGB image on a 100% sRGB gamut display without colour management, the saturation will be lower than expected.

[Andrew Reid]

OK just tried it and yes you're correct. Mainly seems to boost the reds if I switch to AdobeRGB on the display with the wrong colour management in Mac OS.

So perhaps if videos come out too saturated and with too much contrast, this could be a place for people to start checking.

[AKH]

Being a PC guy, I'm not familiar with how colour management is handled on a Mac.  Colour managed video playback on PC is pretty sparse.

Edit: Media Player Classic Home Cinema is what I use.

[TSV]

I don't get the point of shooting in 4K when the whole video is at best soft as hell or badly out of focus. What did you try to achieve here? Is this some kind of artistic modern art approach that the average joe like myself won't get? 

[BenC]

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[Nathanael McKinley Myton]

Venice looked nice. Curious what lens is producing all that chromatic aberration though.. it was pretty horrendous in a lot of those shots. Like if I was trying to teach someone what chromatic aberrations look like, I'd probably just have them watch the first minute of your video.

like damn if that's not pretty distracting 

[Fredrik Lyhne]

1 hour ago, Nathanael McKinley Myton said:

Venice looked nice. Curious what lens is producing all that chromatic aberration though.. it was pretty horrendous in a lot of those shots. Like if I was trying to teach someone what chromatic aberrations look like, I'd probably just have them watch the first minute of your video.

like damn if that's not pretty distracting 

Maybe you should read the article. "For the video above I used the Canon 50mm F1.2L"