mercer Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Vintage Jimothy said: By the way, are there any other great and relatively affordable M43 native lenses anyone here would like to suggest for narrative filmmaking? I liked the SLR Magic 17mm and 35mm. And the Rokinon/Samyang 12mm and 21mm cine lenses were pretty nice looking as well. Vintage Jimothy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Jimothy Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 24 minutes ago, mercer said: I liked the SLR Magic 17mm and 35mm. And the Rokinon/Samyang 12mm and 21mm cine lenses were pretty nice looking as well. Yeah, I've heard great things about all of those lenses too! I will say the lenses I'm most interested in getting if I say "Screw it" and get a bunch of native M43 lenses are the Voigtlander f0.95 line. The 17.5mm in particular just has this look about it that reminds me a LOT of classic 70's cinema, which I adore. Definitely pricier than the Olympus 17mm though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Well both the Olympus 7-14mm and the Panasonic 8-16mm have a good reputation. They have really good digital corrections in them. No fish eye look which is great. For native I would think one of them has to be in your bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hill Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 So I'm almost finished with post on a horror feature that i shot with the A7iii and couldn't resist checking out the X-T3. So I've been trying to decide whether to sell the Sony or send back the Fuji. Both are great. But I also realized that a couple gx85s or one gx85 and one g85 would be about right for my next project. So while contemplating these options today, I find this resuscitated thread. Maybe it's a sign... mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Thomas Hill said: So I'm almost finished with post on a horror feature that i shot with the A7iii and couldn't resist checking out the X-T3. So I've been trying to decide whether to sell the Sony or send back the Fuji. Both are great. But I also realized that a couple gx85s or one gx85 and one g85 would be about right for my next project. So while contemplating these options today, I find this resuscitated thread. Maybe it's a sign... You aren't @MERCER secret lost brother or sister are you?? This changing thing looks familiar LoL. Thomas Hill and jonpais 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hill Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Only in spirit, as far as i know. But Mercer has stuck with his 5D3 longer than I've held onto any camera. If i don't sell the A7iii soon, it'll set a record or something. mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, Thomas Hill said: Only in spirit, as far as i know. But Mercer has stuck with his 5D3 longer than I've held onto any camera. If i don't sell the A7iii soon, it'll set a record or something. Yeah I have been worried about him with the 5D mk III thing. Unlike him. ? Thomas Hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Yeah, I’m starting to get antsy. I doubt I’ll ever sell that thing. But there are just so many cameras around that I want to try. Oh well. Thomas Hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hill Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, mercer said: Yeah, I’m starting to get antsy. I doubt I’ll ever sell that thing. But there are just so many cameras around that I want to try. Oh well. Same here. If i could afford to own instead of rent that Sony 16-35/2.8 I used on the feature, the A7iii would probably be my 5D3. I swear that one has a more filmic, less digital rendering than any other digital lens I've used. And just so i could stay on topic, a gx85 is on its way. Decisions will be made next week (because the cc payment is due soon). mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Thomas Hill said: Same here. If i could afford to own instead of rent that Sony 16-35/2.8 I used on the feature, the A7iii would probably be my 5D3. I swear that one has a more filmic, less digital rendering than any other digital lens I've used. And just so i could stay on topic, a gx85 is on its way. Decisions will be made next week (because the cc payment is due soon). A GX85 or the G85? I have the 16-35 f4.0. Hmm interesting that it is that much different. Have to look on the web for comparisons. The copy I have is damn good but not great. My 28-70mm, now that one is a great copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hill Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: A GX85 or the G85? I have the 16-35 f4.0. Hmm interesting that it is that much different. Have to look on the web for comparisons. The copy I have is damn good but not great. My 28-70mm, now that one is a great copy. GX. If I like the IQ, I'll have it as b-cam and get a G to go with it. I rented the 16-35/2.8 for the 9 day shoot then got the 24-70/2.8 for a couple reshoots and i could tell a difference. Maybe I got a "bad" copy from lensrentals.com or I need to find out what kind of uv filter they put on the 16-35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Thomas Hill said: Same here. If i could afford to own instead of rent that Sony 16-35/2.8 I used on the feature, the A7iii would probably be my 5D3. I swear that one has a more filmic, less digital rendering than any other digital lens I've used. And just so i could stay on topic, a gx85 is on its way. Decisions will be made next week (because the cc payment is due soon). Fun little camera... Don’t forget the CineLikeD hack. Thomas Hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 So what is the main difference between the aG85 and the GX85 other than 200 bucks more for the G85? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hill Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 1 hour ago, webrunner5 said: So what is the main difference between the aG85 and the GX85 other than 200 bucks more for the G85? I think it's just a mic jack and slightly improved ibis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 37 minutes ago, Thomas Hill said: I think it's just a mic jack and slightly improved ibis. Those would help LoL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 It’s also the form factor. The GX85 is more of a rangefinder shape and the G85 is more DSLR shapes. Also the G85 has a better build quality. And it comes with CineLikeD and CineLikeV. Thomas Hill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimor Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 And you can rotate the screen mercer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 @Thomas Hill I love that you’re using these cameras for narratives. Being a writer/director of horror and thriller, I’d love to hear more about what you’re doing. Also, are you shooting handheld with IBIS? Vintage Jimothy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Hill Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Yep, In Their Eyes, the horror flick that's in post now, was shot almost entirely handheld with Sony ibis and the 16-35/2.8. I had the A7iii attached to a dual hand grip bar thing that helped me keep it as steady as I could, especially during movements. The next one is a thriller with a good ol' criminal mastermind/hacker spying on people and will be 85% or so locked-down shots made to look like hidden camera footage, which is why I'm thinking a $500 4k shooter like a gx85 or g85 or (after Andrew's latest) e-m10iii will do the job just fine. Finding an office for the primary location is a much bigger hurdle than deciding on a camera. But in general, I'm a firm believer that the cameras available now are more than good enough for whatever we can dream up in the low-budget indie world. And I haven't even explored BM and ML Canon raw like you have. Don't want to hijack the thread so feel free to holler at me via dm. Vintage Jimothy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted October 6, 2018 Share Posted October 6, 2018 On 10/5/2018 at 5:12 AM, mercer said: It’s also the form factor. The GX85 is more of a rangefinder shape and the G85 is more DSLR shapes. Also the G85 has a better build quality. And it comes with CineLikeD and CineLikeV. Hey Glenn, I imagined the G85 to have that solid GH5 buit. I went to a store to observe my 8bit dream camera again. Having been using the GX85 for quiet a while now I was a bit shocked (strong word, so a tiny little bit so) how much less quality like it felt to hold in hand compared to my GX85. Maybe I tricked myself by too high expectations. GX85 is a marvel to touch, just if its body was only a bit higher and the EVF as good as on the G7. Well, guess I gonna go to the store again and check out the G85 another time, again:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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