Fredrik Lyhne Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, jonpais said: I didn't notice. Your model was better than mine. Haha, I the guess the tripod has some value after all Love the IBIS though! If you look closely at my video the focus is on the forehead and cheeks while the nose and chin is slightly off. It may not matter but it would have been a better test with a smaller aperture. It's great to see other people test/footage and compare them to our own. To learn from each others "faults" and discuss these things is very valuable to me. Thanks for sharing! Stanley and jonpais 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 50 minutes ago, Fredrik Lyhne said: Haha, I the guess the tripod has some value after all Love the IBIS though! If you look closely at my video the focus is on the forehead and cheeks while the nose and chin is slightly off. It may not matter but it would have been a better test with a smaller aperture. It's great to see other people test/footage and compare them to our own. To learn from each others "faults" and discuss these things is very valuable to me. Thanks for sharing! Do you think it makes sense to turn NR all the way down to -5? In my shots, it seems to increase detail a touch, and I didn't see a huge increase in noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesku Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 There is still some NR even with NR -5. When using 4k photo there is less NR at same setting as with 4k video. jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Lyhne Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 minute ago, jonpais said: Do you think it makes sense to turn NR all the way down to -5? In my shots, it seems to increase detail a touch, and I didn't see a huge gain in noise. Yes, I would say so. I didn't see more noise in your youtube video with or without NR, and I agree it's looks a tiny bit crisper. Most of the recommendations I have seen is either -4 or -5 on NR. I have been using standard 0, -5, -5, 0 for a while and it works well for me. I could probably lower the saturation at times I suppose. jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Fredrik Lyhne said: Yes, I would say so. I didn't see more noise in your youtube video with or without NR, and I agree it's looks a tiny bit crisper. Most of the recommendations I have seen is either -4 or -5 on NR. I have been using standard 0, -5, -5, 0 for a while and it works well for me. I could probably lower the saturation at times I suppose. Do you raise shadows at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Lyhne Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, jonpais said: Do you raise shadows at all? I actually did a test a while back with contrast 0 and h/s 0/0, +3/-3 and +5/-5. They are graded to match. Tell me which one you like the most? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 @Fredrik Lyhne I think the third picture is the most pleasing, it has the softest contrast, the most flattering for the man's face. Or maybe #1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Lyhne Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, jonpais said: @Fredrik Lyhne I think the third picture is the most pleasing, it has the softest contrast, the most flattering for the man's face. Nr 1 is 0/0, nr. 2 is +3/-3 and nr 3 is +5/-5. I think the settings were 0, -5, -5, 0 in this test. I've read so many times about people warning about using h/s. It may not increase DR to me it looks like it can be useful if you want a less contrasty image. Keep in mind that the more you lower h/s the more saturated your image gets. I prefer image number 2 because I think the skin looks a little bit better. I don't think there is much in it and it also comes down to how you grade your files. Give it a try and see for yourself if you think there is anything in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I agree, the skin tone looks better in 2, I was just looking at the contrast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonysss Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 6 hours ago, dantheman said: My favorite setting, at the same GH4 G80 and LX100 is a natural 0,-5,-5,-2 max(-4) shadows +2(+4) / highlight 0 highlight do not go into minus, skintone will be unnatural ! Fredrik Lyhne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattpitts74 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I guys, can anyone suggest an SD card suitable for use with the G80? There are so many variations these days, and I found the user manual really unclear too. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'd say a good idea to have the same compatibility as the requirements for the Video Assist 4K: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/support/faq/59010 . They gave me one of these with the camera: http://panasonic.net/avc/sdcard/product_lineup/index.html . So UHS-I U3 Class 10 R95W90 as a general rule is a solid purchase that you can put to good use. I've been a fan of SanDisk since the GH2 era when Kingston, Transcend etc let me down, the SanDisk Extreme Pro did it all! jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldolega Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 The VA4K requires UHS-II cards, the G85 is compatible with UHS-II but doesn't need them, and UHS-II is way more expensive, so why bother? I will second the suggestion of Sandisk Extreme Pro cards. Just make sure to buy from an authorized dealer so that you get a genuine card, there are a lot of fakes out there. And get the newer versions which are marked U3, they actually perform the same as the original U1 version, but some cameras will perform a check for the U3 designation, and will refuse the U1 cards, even though they're more than fast enough. jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I personally like the compatibility. I already have some Lexar UHS-II 64GB ones, so I can use it with just about everything cross platform and what comes out next. Of course they'll get much cheaper over time once there's more competition and the standard actually gets to be the standard. Like I said, UHS-I U3 Class 10 R95W90 you should consider a solid purchase though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I'm using a Lexar Professional 1000x 128GB SDXC UHS-II/U3 Card (Up to 150MB/s read) with no problems. Found it really cheap on Amazon Flash deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Some new settings I came up with building off of my experience with the GH4. Let me know what you think everything is straight out of camera...the most I did is convert the footage from 0-255 to 16-235 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Did you use a voightlander lens to shoot this? I have seen this before on a gx85 in combination with this type of lens while shooting wide open which is purple fringing, I see it in your video as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 On 1/4/2017 at 5:22 PM, Fredrik Lyhne said: Haha, I the guess the tripod has some value after all Love the IBIS though! If you look closely at my video the focus is on the forehead and cheeks while the nose and chin is slightly off. It may not matter but it would have been a better test with a smaller aperture. It's great to see other people test/footage and compare them to our own. To learn from each others "faults" and discuss these things is very valuable to me. Thanks for sharing! I tried again this morning, this time at ISO 1600, Standard, Sharpening -5, NR -5 and contrast at 0. I made sure the subject was in focus this time. ISO 1600 is perfectly fine. So I am a happy camper. Not sure if I'm going to stick with contrast at 0 though, because I think in contrasty lighting, I can save some of the shadows a bit by turning contrast down just a touch. More tests tomorrow morning to confirm. If some here think determining which settings are best for you with the GX80/85 or G80/85 is confusing, wait till we're confronted with the gazillion options in the GH5. Just looking at the spec sheet this afternoon was starting to make my head spin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimor Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 5 hours ago, kidzrevil said: Some new settings I came up with building off of my experience with the GH4. Let me know what you think everything is straight out of camera...the most I did is convert the footage from 0-255 to 16-235 Like it, but found it a bit "Teal & Orange" (as with LPP Tetrachrome or Osiris Luts.) How do you get those colors straight out the camera? Could you share yours settings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Lyhne Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 4 hours ago, jonpais said: I tried again this morning, this time at ISO 1600, Standard, Sharpening -5, NR -5 and contrast at 0. I made sure the subject was in focus this time. ISO 1600 is perfectly fine. So I am a happy camper. Not sure if I'm going to stick with contrast at 0 though, because I think in contrasty lighting, I can save some of the shadows a bit by turning contrast down just a touch. More tests tomorrow morning to confirm. If some here think determining which settings are best for you with the GX80/85 or G80/85 is confusing, wait till we're confronted with the gazillion options in the GH5. Just looking at the spec sheet this afternoon was starting to make my head spin! Cool! Post the test when it's done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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