fuzzynormal Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Cinegain said: but nobody was like: ooh, I have to get it anyways (not even you fuzzynormal)? I'm gas'ed out for the moment. Truth is, I'm going to be selling off most of my cameras and lenses. Around March I'll look closely at the Oly offering, but right now I'm not eager to pick anything up. I'm not really ever that eager to buy brand new cameras... (somehow I manage to do so though) Kisaha and Cinegain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Same here. I think I will be playing the waiting game for now. Most cameras are good these days, but I want to see where the industry is heading as a whole. I have a complete APS-C mirrorless kit with 3 different form factor cameras (28mgpxls, 4K, H265), lenses and all. Maybe I want to see what's the next Canon C100 will be, or a similar Pana, or the JVC LS300 mkII (very underated camera, a good tool for budget orientated productions). 2017 will be a defensive year, trying to do small steps and probably invest more in marketing and accessories (lights, maybe a bit more on sound) than cameras and lenses(ok, maybe the G80/85 after the first substantial price drop!). Also, HDR is going to be big, and it is for real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Just picked up the g85 and man the image out of it is beautiful ! Its like a GH4 but better :-D will have samples up once I get in my new lens set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 hours ago, kidzrevil said: Just picked up the g85 and man the image out of it is beautiful ! Its like a GH4 but better :-D will have samples up once I get in my new lens set Yes, baby! Cannot wait to see your footage! Great, that not everbody is healed from gas:) So footage should be the same as gx85 then? I did a 2 camera setup of gx85 and g6 two weeks ago. Cams matched pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 4 hours ago, kidzrevil said: Just picked up the g85 and man the image out of it is beautiful ! Its like a GH4 but better :-D will have samples up once I get in my new lens set Which lenses did you go with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 hours ago, mercer said: Which lenses did you go with? All nikkor ais bro ! Wanted to use contax glass but that speedbooster is hard to find. Anyway I have a nikkor 35mm f1.4 ais and the other is a secret got some new tiffen diffusion too, can't wait to try it out ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 4 hours ago, PannySVHS said: Yes, baby! Cannot wait to see your footage! Great, that not everbody is healed from gas:) So footage should be the same as gx85 then? I did a 2 camera setup of gx85 and g6 two weeks ago. Cams matched pretty well. I haven't used a gx85 but if its the same sensor then they both produce a damn good image. Highlight roll off looks good, sharpness at -5 looks organic with the M42 lens I used. I love it, if the gh5 looks better than this then God help us all cause the G85 ticks alot of the checkboxes for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Hi, @kidzrevil , what about the low light performance. In general, do you have any comment Vs the NX1 ? Pana seems to do all the right things lately! I just hope for all the rumored GH5 insides, on a C100 type Panasonic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, Kisaha said: Hi, @kidzrevil , what about the low light performance. In general, do you have any comment Vs the NX1 ? Pana seems to do all the right things lately! I just hope for all the rumored GH5 insides, on a C100 type Panasonic! Haven't tested lowlight yet. When my speedbooster & lenses get in I will test it that way. I only have very soft m42 lenses on hand right now so it wouldn'T be a great test :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 ok @kidzrevil I am very interested going the Pana way, G85 (even GX85 for the right price) and GH5, it makes sense as I am using the LS300 already (EF lenses here), and as you had an admirable NX reputation(sic) I am eagerly expecting your thoughts! kidzrevil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Williams Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Shot this yesterday with G85, kit lens. Still not sure how I feel about it, I like many aspects, but frustrated by others. (And yeah, I know my color treatment here could use some work, did this very quickly. Also did this before I bought Andrew's Pro Color LUT yesterday). The stabilization is really great. My choice now is to whether keep this and sell my A6300 and my Gimbal, or return. Did some low light tests between the two last night in my living room at ISO 1600 and 3200, A6300 defitinitely won, the noise was much more grainlike than G85, but the G85 did better than I expected, it wasn't a huge difference. But man, Panasonic's focus tracking sucks. I used to never care about things like this, because I used to focus manually for everything. But once I got A6300 and saw how awesome it was at tracking while shooting video, I got lazy and started using it quite a bit. Now, trying to on the Panasonic, its hard, its probably the biggest thing holding me back from ditching the Sony, besides the IQ difference, which again is close enough. The Contrast detection is just so wishy washy- even when it does seem to track decently, even once I've stopped moving, it will, all of a sudden, rack focus before coming back, and nothing in the scene changed. Also did some extreme panning to test the rolling shutter; when done to an extreme level, the two cameras show a similar amount. But with just typical panning, what you would actually do in real life, way less on the Panasonic, which of course is expected, its the worse part of the Sony. Its just frustrating- the best part about this camera (compared to A6300) is the stabilization and lack of RS, worst part is focus; the best part of the A6300 (compared to G85) is awesome focus, but worst is lack of stabilization and god-awful RS. If only the two could make a Pany-Sony baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 @Brian Williams please be mindful that even though autofocus has come a long way in video its still a relatively underdeveloped piece of tech. You're better off manual focusing in video depending on your needs... your video looks amazing btw...nice dr and sharpness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 I can understand Brian's frustration, some autofocussing systems have become so good that in particular situations, like when shooting with a very shallow dof on a steadicam or just a shot of a person walking towards the camera, will be much easier to achieve with a a6300 or any Canon camera with dual pixel autofocus. There is a reason why professional and expensive camera like a c300 have a good autofocus, it's not a amateur function anymore if it is well implemented. Brian Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 How often do these situations demanding autofocus appear in your work ? @dantheman 1 hour ago, Kisaha said: ok @kidzrevil I am very interested going the Pana way, G85 (even GX85 for the right price) and GH5, it makes sense as I am using the LS300 already (EF lenses here), and as you had an admirable NX reputation(sic) I am eagerly expecting your thoughts! Hopefully by the end of the month I will have something to show ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 When shooting weddings I would say there are quite a few situations where a good tracking autofocus could do wonders. webrunner5 and kidzrevil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 For the in camera stabilization do you put in the true focal length of the lens you are using or its 35mm equivalent ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, kidzrevil said: For the in camera stabilization do you put in the true focal length of the lens you are using or its 35mm equivalent ? True focal length, but I think it's different with a speedbooster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidzrevil Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 11 minutes ago, mercer said: True focal length, but I think it's different with a speedbooster. ok gotcha so 35mm equivalent it is. I wonder how it would be different with a speedbooster ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essbe Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 As the speedbooster reduces the focal length, you should probably put the new focal length (for example 0.71x50mm, or whatever combination you have of speedbooster and lens). kidzrevil and mercer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, kidzrevil said: ok gotcha so 35mm equivalent it is. I wonder how it would be different with a speedbooster ? Sorry, I mean lens' focal length, but then with a speedbooster, the focal length changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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