sanveer Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 4 hours ago, wolf33d said: I was super happy to read you. Then I watched and the guy actually says it works just as well as the GH4. So I think we should be more worried about what he says actually Hahaha. Could you say where he says it (in mins). One of the few noticeable limitations in the Panasonic cameras (compared to Canon and Sony) is the disappointedin auto-focus. I was hoping they address some of that with the GH5. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Neither Matt Frazer nor Griffin Hammond know how fast or accurate the AF-C will be; they were handling pre-production models. For sure, the GH5 will be better; it will have more focus points, it will read the sensor much faster, they're using improved algorithms: whether it will be as fast and accurate as current APS-C cameras remains to be seen. I'm not expecting any miracles here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I guess it's all about Interpretation, but they say improved. Maybe you've all seen this, but if not, go to the 5:50 mark. Just another video ( a rough video ) but Matt Frazer speaks on the auto focus the same way he has in every video I've seen, but says it's "Auto focus system is on steroids" I understand marketing hoopla, but based on the consistent claim that the auto focus is a major improvement up from the GH4 I'm expecting a solid auto focus improvement, if not Matt, and Lumix will have told blatant lies. He addresses the GH4 every time they discuss auto focus and acknowledges that it was a area to improve going off of user feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, mechanicalEYE said: I guess it's all about Interpretation, but they say improved. Maybe you've all seen this, but if not, go to the 5:50 mark. Just another video ( a rough video ) but Matt Frazer speaks on the auto focus the same way he has in every video I've seen, but says it's "Auto focus system is on steroids" I understand marketing hoopla, but based on the consistent claim that the auto focus is a major improvement up from the GH4 I'm expecting a solid auto focus improvement, if not Matt, and Lumix will have told blatant lies. He addresses the GH4 every time they discuss auto focus and acknowledges that it was a area to improve going off of user feedback. single auto focus is already blazing fast on Lumix cameras. all I'm interested in is continuous auto focus. and all this talk is anecdotal, let's just wait for some tests. we're not calling anyone a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Just now, jonpais said: single auto focus is already blazing fast on Lumix cameras. all I'm interested in is continuous auto focus. and all this talk is anecdotal, let's just wait for some tests. we're not calling anyone a liar. Waiting on actual test is it... I hear you, and NO, we're not calling anyone a liar, just saying they have consistently said this was an area of focus based on user feedback. I'm thinking they answered that request. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, mechanicalEYE said: Waiting on actual test is it... I hear you, and NO, we're not calling anyone a liar, just saying they have consistently said this was an area of focus based on user feedback. I'm thinking they answered that request. okay, cool, where are the shots to prove it? they gave us slo mo, they showed us how great the pull focus feature is, why not show us how fast it can follow an object moving directly toward the camera. it takes just one minute to do the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, jonpais said: okay, cool, where are the shots to prove it? Be hopeful, in time all of us will see either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dantheman Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 1 hour ago, jonpais said: okay, cool, where are the shots to prove it? If they managed to get even close to what Canon, Sony or even Fujifilm have achieved when it comes to continuous autofocus they would have shown us because that would have been a big deal, I expect some minor improvements but nothing worth talking about, time will tell. samuel.cabral, jonpais and Kisaha 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 In the news shooter interview.... he says big AF improvements were still coming with firmware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 He said somewhere they are still tweaking it. If CAF is good then I think some people on the fence like me will pick one up. samuel.cabral 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Stasinos Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 I can see only 2 dark spots regarding this camera till now. One is the auto focus performance, as mentioned above, and the other is what panasonic calls Three-Dimensional Color Control. If AF is indeed 2 times faster than gh4 and 3DCC actually helps the user to get rid off that ugly orange skintones, even with tweaking, this will be a dream video camera. Again, fingers crossed.... samuel.cabral, Cas1 and Emanuel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 49 minutes ago, Dimitris Stasinos said: I can see only 2 dark spots regarding this camera till now. One is the auto focus performance, as mentioned above, and the other is what panasonic calls Three-Dimensional Color Control. If AF is indeed 2 times faster than gh4 and 3DCC actually helps the user to get rid off that ugly orange skintones, even with tweaking, this will be a dream video camera. Again, fingers crossed.... I'm sure that's tops on everyone's list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jonpais Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Letterboxed 720p looks like a cheap copy of a VHS tape from the 1970s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, jonpais said: Letterboxed 720p looks like a cheap copy of a VHS tape from the 1970s. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamoui Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 9 hours ago, mechanicalEYE said: That was one of the greatest videos on YouTube I may have ever seen. Was that entire video satire? It's so hard to tell these days!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 52 minutes ago, iamoui said: That was one of the greatest videos on YouTube I may have ever seen. Was that entire video satire? It's so hard to tell these days!! Someone commented on the video with "you're not doing Panasonic any favors with this video" I guess he felt the guy was right he deleted it and uploaded it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 1 hour ago, mechanicalEYE said: Someone commented on the video with "you're not doing Panasonic any favors with this video" I guess he felt the guy was right he deleted it and uploaded it again. This video has so much new information, I can't even begin to process it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Lipetz Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 jonpais, mechanicalEYE and Cas1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 11 minutes ago, jonpais said: This video has so much new information, I can't even begin to process it all. Glad you enjoyed it. jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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