Francesco Spiezia Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Any word on low light performance compared to the GH4 .. I know it is early in the game. Im a Canon guy so its an important benchmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Photo 6K uses H.265 as its base codec and 4K50p/60p 8-bit 420 also uses HEVC. I wonder if HEVC will come to other 4K modes and if an All-I flavor of H.265 will also come later with the 400 Mbps firmware update or is it the 400Mbps already H.265? The later firmware update will also add high-resolution Anamorphic Video Mode and Hybrid Log Gamma for 4K HDR Video (for playback on HDR compatible televisions). Does that mean REC.2020 is also coming? Mat Mayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcuswolschon Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said: Did you miss the 400mbps that is coming in summer ? Its going to be close to the quality of either ProResHQ or DNxHR. I did not miss it. It's for ALL-I only. As for no-recording while 10bit output is used: I have a written spec that says it. If I see them do that in the interview, I'll gladly stand corrected.. I'll watch the interview about H.264. Thanks for the pointer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassius McGowan Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Funny how some of you guys have something to cry about when they're giving you a camera that's doing everything other video cameras are doing at thousands of dollars less. Francesco Spiezia, Kisaha, HelsinkiZim and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Aside from sensor size, on paper this is perfect. Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McC Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 But will I be able to use my Blackmagic Pocket Speedbooster on this one like with the GH4? Santiago de la Rosa and Zak Forsman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 13 minutes ago, Francesco Spiezia said: Any word on low light performance compared to the GH4 .. I know it is early in the game. Im a Canon guy so its an important benchmark Reading just now that it's excellent. Francesco Spiezia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eduardo Portas Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Has any media outlet posted a video sample that shows rolling is in fact reduced? We saw a train moving for a second during the official product video, but little else. For me, this is the absolute most important aspect of the new camera at this price range. Otherwise, I'm going back to CCDs ;] Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EspenB Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Something fishy are going on! Even in the presentation video the sensor seems wider than the 4/3 GH4 sensor. Also, measurements seems to indicate a 1,4ish aspect rato. (Suggesting a multi aspect ratio sensor like the GH1/GH2). Yet, the pixel dimensons given for the various picture aspects are all the same pixel width. (And same height for 1:1 and 4:3 aspects). Strange! UPDATE: The EM-1 Mark II sensor (20ish MP) clearly is in 4/3 aspect. The GH5 sensor seems wider. Could be that they chopped off 1 MP at each side to improve read out speed. Or could be because of IBIS. Eno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Eduardo Portas said: Has any media outlet posted a video sample that shows rolling is in fact reduced? We saw a train moving for a second during the official product video, but little else. For me, this is the absolute most important aspect of the new camera at this price range. Otherwise, I'm going back to CCDs ;] Thanks. Yes, - I forget how far in but he does a quick test. Looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, Eduardo Portas said: Has any media outlet posted a video sample that shows rolling is in fact reduced? "In addition the camera also has a much faster readout of the sensor. In 4K video the sensor read speed is claimed to be 15ms, versus 22ms on the GH4." source And an example: Another example from the video that was posted by the @thecaptiveman: Its definitely an improvement but not as good as the E-M1ii and really far away from a global sensor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecaptiveman Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 This video is pretty helpful to see some of the improvements that are coming with the GH5. Don Kotlos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jonny said: Yes, - I forget how far in but he does a quick test. Looks good. I am at work and cant see. Does he talk about AF in video? Works well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 minute ago, wolf33d said: I am at work and cant see. Does he talk about AF in video? Works well? Yes he talks about it a little but the test is not comprehensive enough for me to make an opinion. Supposedly it is improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 On the H.265 and HEVC topic and 400Mbps: I was assuming that 400Mbps All-I is H.264 but there is nowhere saying which codec is it and when I asked Nick Driftwood on a Live they did on Facebook, he said like the 400Mbps codec was actually H.265 and it would be equivalent to a 800Mbps in GH4 since HEVC has about half the size of AVC. I'm not sure if he made a mistake but that what he said. That's something I wrote about some time ago and that it would be interesting to have H.265 All-I version for the GH5, so if it's true and the GH5 is providing both H.264 and H.265 codecs, that's very interesting and quite future oriented approach. Mat Mayer and estarkey7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Just now, Jonny said: Yes he talks about it a little but the test is not comprehensive enough for me to make an opinion. Supposedly it is improved. Thanks. Cant wait to see how well or not it works. I would be happy with A6300 level. For me it's all about usability in the field. Specs are amazing cant complain. Yes it is not FF, yes it has not the best DR, but I think a very good image can still be obtain. Again for me it is all about usability in travel which means IBIS, slowmo, ergonomics, .... and continuous AF in video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Looking like the perfect run and gun, travel light, documentary camera. zetty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyou86 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Shooters in europe, where are you placing your preorders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Looks fantastic for more serious video shooters. 10 minutes ago, wolf33d said: Thanks. Cant wait to see how well or not it works. I would be happy with A6300 level. For me it's all about usability in the field. Specs are amazing cant complain. Yes it is not FF, yes it has not the best DR, but I think a very good image can still be obtain. Again for me it is all about usability in travel which means IBIS, slowmo, ergonomics, .... and continuous AF in video. Looks like a fantastic video camera and way beyond what most people would ever need. Certainly beyond what I would need for video. It may well be TOO good for video for many that would have previously got a GH4 (which is still going to be sold) with the much higher cost. Forget about it regards being light weight though. It seems heavier and mostly larger than every entry level DSLR (Pentax, Canon and Nikon) and around the same size give or take as many mid level DSLRs (heavier than the Nikon D5### cameras and a fraction lighter than a Pentax K5). Maybe not so many reasons to buy it as a stills camera. Maybe I might be able to get a cheaper GH4 second hand when I upgrade/replace my GX7 as my second camera in a few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 high iso looks good Eno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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