no_connection Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Just checked the Fuji Guys video and the AF is awful. it might work for 1080 but sure not for 4k. Too jumpy and keep changing. Could be pre-production so hope for better I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat1 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 3 hours ago, jonpais said: You're joking right? No... Where is the sky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 47 minutes ago, pat1 said: No... Where is the sky? The fact that he exposed +1 stop on the subject's face and the window wasn't completely blown out is a testament to both camera's DR. If he exposed for the sky, the subject would be a shadowed, noisy mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat1 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 Just now, mercer said: The fact that he exposed +1 stop on the subject's face and the window wasn't completely blown out is a testament to both camera's DR. If he exposed for the sky, the subject would be a shadowed, noisy mess. some noise.. but possibly a half decent image without clipped sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 5 hours ago, jonpais said: ??? Don't worry about it. Someone is just misconstruing the adverse lighting/exposure situation for actual camera performance. This is the YouTube world we live in. A beautifully lit scene on a crappy 10 Stop camera can look better than an Alexa in a bad lighting situation... but try explaining why to a beginning enthusiast is always gonna be a challenge. TheRenaissanceMan, jonpais, leeys and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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no_connection Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Well that's a disappointment that rolling shutter is so bad even with line skipping. Why can't they just include a 1:1 readout mode for 4k. Call it zoom and make it a feature. That would decrease RS and be useful at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxotis70 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 does anyone knows for sure , if xt20 has more moire-aliasing from xt2 ? Are there any samples to see ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 10 hours ago, toxotis70 said: does anyone knows for sure , if xt20 has more moire-aliasing from xt2 ? Are there any samples to see ? There is some aliasing but imo its not bad. Probably less noticeable than the 1080p mode. Dissapointing about the rolling shutter still being the same as the XT2 but not too surprising. There are some benefits of the XT20 vs the XT2: No crop in 4k. Touchscreen autofocus with smooth focus pulls (confirmed by another youtuber). Focus point can be changed during recording while in AF-S mode (confirmed by same youtuber). Smaller body with the same nice rubbery grip as the XT10 (confirmed by a dpreview commenter). Two things im wondering about are whether we can switch between EVF and back screen while recording. And whether ISO can be changed while recording. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil A Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Lord, that jello! I think we need great rolling shutter performance maybe more than 10bit. Sony, Fuji and Samsung at 30-39ms is just atrocious. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 7, 2017 Administrators Share Posted March 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Inazuma said: No crop in 4k. Touchscreen autofocus with smooth focus pulls (confirmed by another youtuber). Focus point can be changed during recording while in AF-S mode (confirmed by same youtuber). Smaller body with the same nice rubbery grip as the XT10 (confirmed by a dpreview commenter). Rolling shutter was pretty good on the X-T2 compared to just about everything else in the same class. Certainly much better than the Sony A6500 and Samsung NX1. If they have no crop for 4K that is pretty interesting in itself, as on one hand I prefer no crop, but on the other-hand more lines to read = slower sensor readout, more rolling shutter. Personally Fuji should just give us a choice in the menus. Crop for reduce RS mode and no crop for normal shooting. Hate having my hands tied! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil A Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Rolling shutter was pretty good on the X-T2 compared to just about everything else in the same class. Certainly much better than the Sony A6500 and Samsung NX1. In general or with the battery grip / boost mode? Because Cinema5D says it is 21ms but the guys on DVXuser say it's 30ms. That's a rather big discrepancy in measurements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted March 7, 2017 Author Super Members Share Posted March 7, 2017 After watching I think its at least way better than the a6300 and NX1. And that makes it pretty much best in the class when it comes to jello. Phil A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I thing Aghori Tantrik Baba disagrees with that! jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Grégory LEROY Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 On the specs sheet, 1080p looks disappointing: Full HD (1920x1080)] 59.94p / 50p / 29.97p / 25p / 24p / 23.98P, 36Mbps Continuous http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_t20/specifications/ Compared to 100Mbps for the X-T2 http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_t2/specifications/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grégory LEROY Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Guys, how do the XT20 1080p and XT2 1080p compare? I don't see any video on youtube about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted June 24, 2017 Author Super Members Share Posted June 24, 2017 All I know for sure is that both look stellar. My guess is that they are identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 On 4/16/2017 at 1:55 PM, Grégory LEROY said: On the specs sheet, 1080p looks disappointing: Full HD (1920x1080)] 59.94p / 50p / 29.97p / 25p / 24p / 23.98P, 36Mbps Continuous http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_t20/specifications/ Compared to 100Mbps for the X-T2 http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_t2/specifications/ thats the only reason i go for x-t2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vNLJLlPoCI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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