/p/ Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 This morning I decided to shoot some test footage to make available to anyone interested but also to get some opinions/tips from more experienced forum members. You can get all the shots here seperately (Account needed) - http://www.4shared.com/folder/Ok9FV-vH/GH3.html Or download this file which has all 5 clips included (No account needed) - http://we.tl/Vwx4S3h3JT It isn't exactly 100% accurate since the light is changing so there is a 2/3 of a stop difference in aperture between the shots (I stopped down the aperture to compensate the change in light).. In this particular shot I probably would have chose to shoot at +1 stop exposure since the big rock was a bit dark but I decided to let the camera "pick" correct exposure for all shots, I was shooting on manual but let the meter decide what was correct exposure. Each clip is only 10 seconds in length, every clip was shot at 1920x1080, 24p, 50Mbps, 1/50th, 200 iso (with a slight difference in aperture between all 5 clips - I think I started on f/16 and by the 5th clip was on f/20) I focused on the big rock in the water. Each clip is a different Photo Style (Standard, Vivid, Natural, Scenery, Portrait) and in all of the Photo Styles Contrast, Sharpness, Saturation and Noise Reduction were all at -5. Hope the shots are ok for grading.. I'd really appreciate any tips/comments on what you think about grading the footage, what program you used, which clip you think grades the best, and also specifics like sharpening and getting rid of noise (any tips for sharpening in FCP7 would be great).. Maybe no one will reply lel but I thought I'd put it up anyway since I'll be practicing grading the shots myself anyway, but I am only new to color grading. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I might give it a try in DaVinci Resolve Lite. I'm also pretty new to color grading so don't expect wonders ;) /Edit: I have to register to download the files. Don't like that. Try WeTransfer.com or mega.co.nz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/p/ Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 I might give it a try in DaVinci Resolve Lite. I'm also pretty new to color grading so don't expect wonders ;) /Edit: I have to register to download the files. Don't like that. Try WeTransfer.com or mega.co.nz. Sorry didn't know that.. Uploading to wetransfer now, will make a new post with link and also copy it into OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/p/ Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 I might give it a try in DaVinci Resolve Lite. I'm also pretty new to color grading so don't expect wonders ;) /Edit: I have to register to download the files. Don't like that. Try WeTransfer.com or mega.co.nz. http://we.tl/Vwx4S3h3JT That's the wetransfer file, however it is all 5 files together and was quite a slow upload.. There doesn't seem to be an option for choosing specific files when downloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Thanks, the download is fast anyway :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I had a play with it for a few minutes, using Vivid GH3 looks pretty good. Once speed booster arrives too should be extra awesome. Here's my video: https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/9bb6bc8980c4e0610b5b398e7cd165f720130227123624/e5ae0a6e50c49b3633d67492bf833b6f20130227123624/426636 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 You have a big spot of dirt on your sensor there, BTW ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/p/ Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 I had a play with it for a few minutes, using Vivid GH3 looks pretty good. Once speed booster arrives too should be extra awesome. Here's my video: https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/9bb6bc8980c4e0610b5b398e7cd165f720130227123624/e5ae0a6e50c49b3633d67492bf833b6f20130227123624/426636 That looks great, what did you use for grading? I just gave the sensor the rocket-air treatment, no more dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Cheers my firend! Varying degrees of Colorista II, Looks and Filmconvert. Lots of small tweaks rather than big sweeping attacks on colour, which are all too common these days IMO. I tried sharpening a bit but it looked very artificial, even just sharpening high frequency detail in the luinance channel. Is in-camera sharpening on or off here? Mirrorkisser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I do have a JVC DT-V20L3D monitor here in the office though, which is amazing and helps a lot for grading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I just had a play with your files. 'Standard' profile looked best for my preference. I have just started exporting a series of different grades. some rather extreme. I am really liking the headroom the footage is giving before any breakup occurs. Should be uploaded shortly. Cheers for sharing this. You should try and get a friend to get in shot as it is always nice to have some skin in shot to judge what you can get in post:) I'd love to see this same shot with some portraits in the foreground. jgharding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I love seeing interpretations. With just one shot it's totally open to aesthetic sensibilities -- there's no particular story to reflect --- you can have fun! I wish there were more footage sharing here now Wetransfer exists. It really helps with buying decisions too. I'm most impressed with how much detail is in the shadows there. This camera doesn't seem to have the GH2's hard highlight clipping either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I'm most impressed with how much detail is in the shadows there. me too. massive amounts of clear detail can be brought back in the rock face. it gets noisy at a point but the noise is lovely and fine. More like grain than noise. I'd leave it in in most cases to be honest - and i imagine some careful iso and profile selection and wb tweeks might allow the noise to be tuned to an even more appealing look, with the right balance between red, green and blue grain is present and it looks even more like film grain. The noise which appears when the shadows are slammed up a bit looks like a perfect Neatvideo candidate if you wanted it gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirrorkisser Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Totally agree with Jgharding: these days people do absurd things with grading software. Its absolutely rather about small tweaks, oh well, i got used to orange faces and other weird stuff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 http://www.vimeo.com/60651984 First shot is 'Standard' - out of the camera. After that I just had a mess around. I like the image out of this beast! ps. You can download the original file if you click 'download'. its about 400mb. Happy to send screen grabs of the curves if you want to know what was done to each channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 That look at about 1:14 is my favorite. You can get a lot out of this little camera it seems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreensPro Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 Quite a bit of detail in those shadows.... Nice work Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 That look at about 1:14 is my favorite. You can get a lot out of this little camera it seems! I just reuploaded a newer version since i felt the darker grades were too contrasty and the rock face went pure black. Various Grades:- http://www.vimeo.com/60651984 Day For Night Grades:- http://www.vimeo.com/60677210 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I recommend you take a look at FCS's Color. You own it already, the grading performed by jgharding and richg101 can be done with it. Usually I would have taken the bait, but I don't think I could do much better. I learned the software with the manual and the very good Lynda tutorials. Workflow: You 'send' an FCP-sequence 'to Color', you jump from clip to clip and from 'room' (correction state) to room. In the end, you 'render all', save and send back 'to Final Cut Pro'. Sounds more complicated than it is. Very fast and straightforward grading suite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/p/ Posted February 27, 2013 Author Share Posted February 27, 2013 If anyone would like to try grading different shots what photo style would you prefer it be in? I know bright sunlight is not the best light to shoot in but I might grab a few shots this afternoon while I am running some errands and possibly a few more at dusk tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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