Martin Yernazian Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I have been struggling with this for a long time. Looking for a camera for the last shooting phase of my 9 year old run documentary "Art Officially Favored" What I want is the following: I want to create highly cinematic scenes ( with the help of lighting of course be it natural or artificial) = quality To be able to run and shoot for some guerrilla scenes= stable Very little to no rolling shutter, specially useful in those guerilla moments I love to handheld my cameras. I've been using a 5d mark 2 for a long time and I hate the rolling shutter ( plus the moire and anti-ailising) but overall a "cute" camera to get plenty done. I want to step it up. Interchangeable lenses: I would love to use any kind of glass. My father is a photo-technician. I have access to all kind of glass... from all kind of times. (the dirtier the better) all kind of formats... we have had some really cool results with anything from the 1910's to the 60s. Also I love in camera tricks.... low shutter speeds and different frame rates.... (where is the fun!?) Sound: I have also the chance of a recorder... but why not getting something that is already part of the pack. I'm intending on getting a Blackmagic HyperDeck Shuttle if needed. Some of my my choices are the following ( please forgive me if these might sound a bit to random) BlackMagic Camera: I know... to new, to random.. yet isn't that the spirit of cinema. I know the price is 3k. I'm willing to put up the rest on the accessories... Panasonic AG-AF100A: Looks good as a doc camera but I'm afraid of rolling shutter and a camera that seems to be old tech. Sony FS700: Don't trust Sony tech but that might be an old juju of mine. This seems like a workable camera. Love the 4k possible upgrade. Like I said I feel this is the direction I want to go... where tech gets better (of course with limitations) Sony FS100: Same as up there... not 4k though, not slow mo Now to the crazy things Red One: they are on sale, they are big and robust but 4.5k with a build fan base and plenty of parts and room to grow. Ikonoskop A-Cam dii: this camera is weird, new... and so hot. I love this camera.... cons... price and their workflow. Can we make it happen... yes. But is it the best? Love the idea of being able to use any Super 16mm glass. My goal is to get a camera to finish this project but also to have a piece of gear that I could carry the edge to use in the next couple of projects. I would appreciate any kind of help and constructive opinions. Thanks Again.ps: I have posted this in several forums. My intention is to get as many opinions as possible that could really help me. no spamming. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuRu Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Heres my toughts: Ikonoskop - expensive (worst bang for your buck), small amount of features/big price, heard it has some WB issues Panasonic AF100A - yes its old, better cameras available Red One - its old, many hardware and software issues, any do you remember its Red Digital /Cinema/ Camera Sony FS700 - all around awesome camera (slow mo, upgrade path...) Sony FS100 - still good if you dont have money to spend on FS700 BMCC - not suited for doc work (again Blackmagic /Cinema/ Camera). and to me that camera still looks videoish (dont rage on me, its my opinion) much better than other but still... best bet go with Sony (good mount,good low light, slowmo, upgrade path...) maybe you want to wait for NAB and then see Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurtinMinorKey Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I think the c300 is the best for handheld documentary stuff. itimjim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itimjim Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 As the chap above me, C300 is probably the best all round, or even C100 with Ninja. Then it's FS700 if you need the slo-mo. If you don't need the slo-mo, I'd going Canon. AF101A if I was really tight for cash and had a load of glass that I could already use on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Top two for me : C100 for lightweight and ease of use and if you only neep standard frame rates and glass with EF flange distance. Sony FS700 if you want more lens options and high speed shooting and 4K future upgrade.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Yernazian Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 Thank you everyone for your responses. Suru: thank you for taking the time. First I won't rage on you... I don't hold any nationalistic pride on any camera so no worries. 1)my thing about the Ikonoskop that I adore is no rolling shutter issues. Yes it is a cinema camera... but it will be like shooting the rest of my doc in Super 16 which I would love that... The WB issues have been resolved Cinema, Video... a camera is a camera. You can adapt to their short comings and their awesome features. 2)I agree with the Panasonic. It is a nice little camera... but like you said better things are out there. 3)I'm not going with Red. The Ikonoskop is way better. 4) The sony fs700 sound good as well as the F35 5) As much as wanted this camera... I can't really use it. BMCC is a good concept... not yet there. Heres my toughts: Ikonoskop - expensive (worst bang for your buck), small amount of features/big price, heard it has some WB issues Panasonic AF100A - yes its old, better cameras available Red One - its old, many hardware and software issues, any do you remember its Red Digital /Cinema/ Camera Sony FS700 - all around awesome camera (slow mo, upgrade path...) Sony FS100 - still good if you dont have money to spend on FS700 BMCC - not suited for doc work (again Blackmagic /Cinema/ Camera). and to me that camera still looks videoish (dont rage on me, its my opinion) much better than other but still... best bet go with Sony (good mount,good low light, slowmo, upgrade path...) maybe you want to wait for NAB and then see Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Yernazian Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 Many people have been pushing me there... and ye I'm considering it. I think the c300 is the best for handheld documentary stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Yernazian Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 I agree... but I won't go the Af100 way.. sadly unless the release something cool for it. As the chap above me, C300 is probably the best all round, or even C100 with Ninja. Then it's FS700 if you need the slo-mo. If you don't need the slo-mo, I'd going Canon. AF101A if I was really tight for cash and had a load of glass that I could already use on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Yernazian Posted March 29, 2013 Author Share Posted March 29, 2013 Thanks for input! Top two for me : C100 for lightweight and ease of use and if you only neep standard frame rates and glass with EF flange distance. Sony FS700 if you want more lens options and high speed shooting and 4K future upgrade.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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