Kubrickian Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said: I think I might go make a movie with it or something... Why do that when you can argue on the internet That Guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Kubrickian said: Why do that when you can argue on the internet Well, I do tend to do that more than make movies, so... Phil A and webrunner5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Kubrickian said: The only GH5 video I've seen so far that I've really liked is James Miller's. All that it took was a Zeiss Otus and a 4k external recorder to accomplish a pristine baked-in-LUT downscale of 4k to 1080p. Every other test video simply doesn't have colors I like. The film look isn't there. If you told me all of it was shot with a GH4 I'd believe you. Very true. James Miller seems to have his stuff together on the GH5. I would guess he could do the same with about any camera. He does have talent. Like you say hands down the best output i have seen yet. I think it is going to take some time before a lot of people get the hang of the GH5. It is a different beast color which is a good thing. Fritz Pierre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSet Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Just watched Max Yuryev's GH5 video and the autofocus performance did not impress me at all. Disappointing. Shield3 and Marco Tecno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 1 hour ago, SuperSet said: Just watched Max Yuryev's GH5 video and the autofocus performance did not impress me at all. Disappointing. Good reason to buy a Speedbooster and go on peaking! ; ) Tap to focus is not a bad idea either... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 1 hour ago, SuperSet said: Just watched Max Yuryev's GH5 video and the autofocus performance did not impress me at all. Disappointing. Abysmal is the word. Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 The word is, well, there are more than a sole one: the test is quite incomplete *cough cough* Even the guy does (doesn't) believe so! LOL (so... read the comments there : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 From those video tests above it looks like face detect AF in video mode is basically useless. Shield3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Ross Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Davey said: Abysmal is the word. Actually AF done incorrectly is the word. He should have used central area focusing not face tracking. Most people are not having the failures Max is having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSet Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Looked at some more AF videos and still confused on whether it sucks or not.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Shasha Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Cancelled both GH5 pre-orders today. Not liking what I'm seeing, unfortunately. Will stick with my Blackmagic Pocket and Micro until a Pocket successor comes out (hopefully). Also, besides rolling-shutter, which I personally have no problem with, I am not finding the current GH5 image anymore superior to my A6500. Perhaps the 400Mbit ALL-I will change this? Anyways, good luck to all those waiting on their pre-orders, hope you get them soon and make some amazing things with it. Enjoy! Shield3 and Marco Tecno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Ross Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Of course if you enjoy 4K60p (I love it), there I no other DSLR that will do it. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijodeibn Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Simon Shasha said: Cancelled both GH5 pre-orders today. Not liking what I'm seeing, unfortunately. Will stick with my Blackmagic Pocket and Micro until a Pocket successor comes out (hopefully). Also, besides rolling-shutter, which I personally have no problem with, I am not finding the current GH5 image anymore superior to my A6500. Perhaps the 400Mbit ALL-I will change this? Anyways, good luck to all those waiting on their pre-orders, hope you get them soon and make some amazing things with it. Enjoy! 5Dmkiii now can shoot 4K, OMG, I see the light at the end of the tunnel…..probably that could be an option for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 3 hours ago, hijodeibn said: 5Dmkiii now can shoot 4K, OMG, I see the light at the end of the tunnel…..probably that could be an option for you But, no IBIS, no 4K/60p, brick size, etc. I think people are freaking out on GH5 flaws, really overestimating them. You can have solid stabilized outcome based on S35/FF look coupled to a Speedbooster bandinglessly on more than adequate color sampling and high bitrate for soon or with a monitor which is a recorder too, after all, for more less than 1,000 bucks. What's the big deal here? To understand the sweet spot on AF settings or use tap to focus when run-n-gun? C'mon pals, pixel peeping can be dangerous if taken overdosed ; ) There's no other similar camera for the price. End of story :-) Cinegain and Chrad 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Shasha Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 3 hours ago, hijodeibn said: 5Dmkiii now can shoot 4K, OMG, I see the light at the end of the tunnel…..probably that could be an option for you Nope, I'm happy with my Blackmagic Pocket and Micro Also, not fond of ML RAW - the workflow is hell on Earth. Zak Forsman and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude_ger Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I am happy with the camera, though it has its downsides, 180p causes horribly moiré. One has to know this, so it s not a big deal Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted April 2, 2017 Share Posted April 2, 2017 I'd still want to see 120fps against nx1. Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 21 hours ago, Simon Shasha said: Nope, I'm happy with my Blackmagic Pocket and Micro Also, not fond of ML RAW - the workflow is hell on Earth. I'd agree, BMPCC successor if it ever happens would be magic. But both those cameras now are amazing for the price and what I want in an image, can't be beaten imo. ML RAW can be a little confusing at first, but if you have MLVFS it's actually as easy as any other camera to edit with and you get all the power of Raw for colour grading. MLVFS x Resolve is a great combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 I never expected the GH5 to outclass the A6500 in terms of AF and sensor performance, I mean, it's 4/3" against APS-C and although we've come quite a way since the GH4, we're not close enough yet and think it would be pretty unrealistic to have expected otherwise? In terms of dynamic range, high ISO/lowlight noise performance, thickness of color perhaps (although these last two improved quite significantly), MFT still needs a bit of catching up. Same for the AF systems. But... you have to appreciate it for the right features. It's basically an ENG/Cinema camera unit, that can be used as such, which means it's super effective in controlled environments, yet, its body design lends itself superbly for on-the-go use. It's reliable, has tons of intergrated features... like really, what is not to love? On top of that: the system is actually compact with tons of possibilities. That's one of the main reasons I decided to go with the GH2 over a T2i/550D/T3i/600D. Mirrorless means more innovation and MFT is the more compact system. Compared to Sony, the body, reliability and system compactness is still so much better. That's also why for me it wouldn't even make much sense to look at a 5DmkIII... Chrad and jonpais 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Cinegain said: I never expected the GH5 to outclass the A6500 in terms of AF and sensor performance, I mean, it's 4/3" against APS-C and although we've come quite a way since the GH4, we're not close enough yet and think it would be pretty unrealistic to have expected otherwise? In terms of dynamic range, high ISO/lowlight noise performance, thickness of color perhaps (although these last two improved quite significantly), MFT still needs a bit of catching up. Same for the AF systems. But... you have to appreciate it for the right features. It's basically an ENG/Cinema camera unit, that can be used as such, which means it's super effective in controlled environments, yet, its body design lends itself superbly for on-the-go use. It's reliable, has tons of intergrated features... like really, what is not to love? On top of that: the system is actually compact with tons of possibilities. That's one of the main reasons I decided to go with the GH2 over a T2i/550D/T3i/600D. Mirrorless means more innovation and MFT is the more compact system. Compared to Sony, the body, reliability and system compactness is still so much better. That's also why for me it wouldn't even make much sense to look at a 5DmkIII... Yet when I wrote virtually the same thing just days before the announcement... Anyway, the GH5 has exceeded my expectations, I've got one on order, should arrive by May at the latest. And from what I understand, though I'm still not sure if I'll use it, Paul Leeming says on his FB page that V-Log has two stops more dynamic range than Cinelike D, which wasn't the case for the GH4, at least as far as he could tell. And even with my G85, I'm able to shoot at much higher ISOs than with my GH4. So, m43 keeps marching along! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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