docmoore Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 Short look at an attempt to grade V-Log L Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmackreath Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Some LUT tests...not too bothered about opinions on the grade, but is the exposure ok on these few clips? https://youtu.be/RTN-o47i9ZM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Hi all, Quick request: does anyone have any GH5 high speed files straight from camera they can share? Preferably v-log? Or indeed any straight from camera files they don't mind sharing. Trying to make a purchasing decision and any and all help is greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Some of the tight shots with shallow dof looks nice and some of the wides look messy. The music is painful so you might want to mute this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Cinelike-V skin tones look nice in sunlight with auto white balance. I wish tests to compare 10bit vs 8bit would include more shots of shade and sunlit areas. 4K V-log test but unspecified if it's 10bit. It must be difficult to get decent skin tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rndmtsk Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/12/2017 at 6:41 PM, Hanriverprod said: 4K V-log test but unspecified if it's 10bit. It must be difficult to get decent skin tone. I think that's just the grade. It's pretty stylized in a couple of those shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rndmtsk Posted April 14, 2017 Share Posted April 14, 2017 Don't know if this was posted elsewhere, but certainly not in this thread. Some technical limitations seen with AF and IBIS if you look closely, but a really nice quality that shows what you can get out of V-Log. matthere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthere Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 nahua, Jonathan Lee and Juank 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 tomsemiterrific 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docmoore Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Shot this early today ... Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsemiterrific Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 What do you do when you just got a GH5, want to shoot, and it's raining cats and dogs on a Texas afternoon? Orangenz and docmoore 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midloch Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Guys what do you think? I can not decide if to shoot with LIKE 709 profile or VLOG. I did a short test: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyou86 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 58 minutes ago, midloch said: Guys what do you think? I can not decide if to shoot with LIKE 709 profile or VLOG. I did a short test: Is the v-log graded with Panas 709 LUT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, midloch said: Guys what do you think? I can not decide if to shoot with LIKE 709 profile or VLOG. I did a short test: Will you shoot with even lighting like this or some contrast? If you shoot like this and you plan to do minimal grading her skin looks better 709. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midloch Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 44 minutes ago, funkyou86 said: Is the v-log graded with Panas 709 LUT? No, these are 2 profiles selected when recording into GH5. The 1st. is profile like 709 and 2nd. is v-log. I graded them slightly manualy in Vegas pro14. 14 minutes ago, Hanriverprod said: Will you shoot with even lighting like this or some contrast? If you shoot like this and you plan to do minimal grading her skin looks better 709. Yes it was shooted in the same conditions and I only made some manual grading in Vegas pro 14. To me it seems Like 709 better than v-log. I have always thought that v-log is the best profile but now I am not so convinced unless it needs much better grading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, midloch said: No, these are 2 profiles selected when recording into GH5. The 1st. is profile like 709 and 2nd. is v-log. I graded them slightly manualy in Vegas pro14. Yes it was shooted in the same conditions and I only made some manual grading in Vegas pro 14. To me it seems Like 709 better than v-log. I have always thought that v-log is the best profile but now I am not so convinced unless it needs much better grading. Actually I wasn't asking if those two shots had the same lighting but if your project will be shot in a similar fashion. Maybe use v-log for wide shots outside on bright days with strong shadows, but me personally, I haven't seen too many examples of people getting good skin tone from v-log. It seems like you get more stops but maybe it's harder to get good colors? I'm not sure, but it seems like it's more difficult to get nuanced skin tone. Most of the v-log footage I see it looks like people just throw those hazy desaturated luts on it. I wonder if we will see better grades with the 10bit from non-professional colorists. That's why I'm curious what pro colorists will think about the 10bit files. I see people getting better skin tone with indoor lighting using the picture profiles like natural and cine-d. If you're going to light that way and not get it graded by a colorist, she looks like she is alive and breathing with the 709. With the v-log, not so much . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunk Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 hours ago, midloch said: To me it seems Like 709 better than v-log. I have always thought that v-log is the best profile but now I am not so convinced unless it needs much better grading. If you can't get the nuance the V-log profile offers like hihglights, look at here hair and eyes, with the like709 profile, I would go for V-log. Skin tones you can adjust, you can't ad highlights(rolloff). AaronChicago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Ross Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 3 hours ago, midloch said: No, these are 2 profiles selected when recording into GH5. The 1st. is profile like 709 and 2nd. is v-log. I graded them slightly manualy in Vegas pro14. Yes it was shooted in the same conditions and I only made some manual grading in Vegas pro 14. To me it seems Like 709 better than v-log. I have always thought that v-log is the best profile but now I am not so convinced unless it needs much better grading. I like 709 in your test. More natural looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Like 709 has a nice natural look, but so does V Log if you want it. V Log is so much more versatile. If there's no time to do grading then I'd go with Like 709 or Natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midloch Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 When grading vlog I can not get nice smooth rich colors. After spending a lot of time by playing with colors, curves, saturation, RGB levels, gain, higlights etc. the image seems to me still very flat. I am not professional colorist but I have done many short films with my previous G6 and it looks that its "basic" 1080p shoots were easier to grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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