docmoore Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Yes very slow ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak_heri Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Nice camera but somehow I'm not impressed. I saw the rumors and I thought Sony A9 would have a a more ruggerised body (dustproof, waterproof), less squishy buttons and an extendedy body like the 1DX has. And a big focus on image quality i.e. much higher dynamic range than other cameras. Instead the focus is 20fps. Who needs 20fps? Sports photogs can be interested, but they need big white lenses. Sony doesn't have any of those. I have no idea which kind of user Sony is targeting for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premini Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 No weather seal? this a big No-No for pros i guess. Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 This is a righteous camera, but I don't think it's the one we're waiting on. That 100mbps codec kind of tells me there's another one en route. Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, rak_heri said: Nice camera but somehow I'm not impressed. I saw the rumors and I thought Sony A9 would have a a more ruggerised body (dustproof, waterproof), less squishy buttons and an extendedy body like the 1DX has. And a big focus on image quality i.e. much higher dynamic range than other cameras. Instead the focus is 20fps. Who needs 20fps? Sports photogs can be interested, but they need big white lenses. Sony doesn't have any of those. I have no idea which kind of user Sony is targeting for this. They just added a 100-400mm lens. I would think that, and a 24-70mm would be be the bees knees. I know the 100-400 is sort of slow, but this thing goes up to over 200,000 ISO! At 20FPS with NO blackout, and with total silent shutter, they will not be able to make enough of them! A sports, wedding photographers dream camera. And the damn thing has a Ethernet cable output! Instant downloads. Well almost instant LoL. And there is No way this thing is not weather sealed. A sports camera Not sealed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted April 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted April 19, 2017 24 minutes ago, docmoore said: Yes very slow ... Should be better now. My host did a great job. Interest in this camera is huge it seems. 65,000 requests on the server in last hour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 They could make this beast a perfect camera with internal 10bit recording! Why Sony? WHY? Marco Tecno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikhan Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 @Germy1979 Quote This is a righteous camera, but I don't think it's the one we're waiting on Oh, I was waiting for such a camera - didn't buy the 1DX m2 and sold last year many Canon sports lenses and even the Canon FFs, so now I am happy to get into the SoNykon world without need to save money. Some weeks after release I will buy it and hope on a A7S iii with insane low features too. FF in 4k when talking 25fps rules... I hope they offer a real 1080p in FF mode too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Eric Calabros said: They could make this beast a perfect camera with internal 10bit recording! Why Sony? WHY? Probably too much data to move quick enough for uploads?? 36 minutes ago, Phil A said: Price in Germany, 5300 €... like the A7 series wasn't already getting silly for people who don't use them for work. Looking forward what a A7 III and/or A7s III will bring. But currently I think I might actually go for a GH5 instead, even though it's a completely different system. I hate changing systems, but you have to decide for a camera you will actually shoot something with and not what "might get released in 6 months time". Well the A9 is shipping in May, not that long away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 It might not be revolutionary for video, but the lack of blackout at 20fps & 93% fast phase detect AF coverage is a big deal for action photography. So I am not puzzled about the lack of 10bit but the lack of ruggedness & weather sealing which many pro action photographers NEED. And then there is rolling shutter or the lack of it. Olympus & panasonic cameras try to compensate the rolling shutter when panning (most rolling shutter tests are panning shots) but cannot do anything when the subject is moving, so I would guess from the following image that this camera has come pretty darn close to global shutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathman Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Maybe there will be "R" and "S" version like on A7 series? Juxx989 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premini Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 42 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: And there is No way this thing is not weather sealed. A sports camera Not sealed? havent seen any referene about this camera being weather sealed, i think is a reasonably big selling point for ignoring it in any product description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikhan Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Important for video shooters: NO S-LOG ! (confirmed) Juxx989 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Arikhan said: Important for video shooters: NO S-LOG ! (confirmed) They put it in RX100 but not in their top model. Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window_Frame Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Arikhan said: Important for video shooters: NO S-LOG ! (confirmed) Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arikhan Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 @Window_Frame + @Don Kotlos - In my eyes, it seems Sony made the A9 with sports photographers in focus, so video functions are just a "give away" for documentary work. The A9 has even some nice functions for immediately transmit photos or footage to editorial offices and social media...So obviously it's made with sports photographers and journalists in mind - and not a specialist for more sophisticated video functions... noplz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 They really knocked it out of the park with this camera didn't they. With a BSI 24mp sensor maybe SLOG won't be neccessary...? Can anyone school me here? Maybe highlights can be brought down somehow? I don't understand why cameras need a LOG function with boosted ISO when the full dynamic range is available at iso 100 for stills? Arikhan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 My guess would be that either this thing overheats like crazy and they did not want the bad rep from video shooters, or Sony got too close to Canon and they caught the virus of stupid market segmentation decisions Ken Ross 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said: My guess would be that either this thing overheats like crazy and they did not want the bad rep from video shooters, or Sony got too close to Canon and they caught the virus of stupid market segmentation decisions PJ still market is like a dead body. Way fewer people buy D5/1DX style cameras these days compared to even 2012. I don't know why they suddenly decided to focus on that segment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeys Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, rak_heri said: Instead the focus is 20fps. Who needs 20fps? Sports photogs can be interested, but they need big white lenses. Sony doesn't have any of those. I have no idea which kind of user Sony is targeting for this. Hmm, that's true, maybe it's a sign they're coming? 1 hour ago, webrunner5 said: They just added a 100-400mm lens. I would think that, and a 24-70mm would be be the bees knees. I know the 100-400 is sort of slow, but this thing goes up to over 200,000 ISO! No way will that ISO be suitable for pro work. At the end of the day even with the best Nikon/Canon a f/2.8 lens is still needed when shooting sport in a stadium at night. Sony doesn't have any superteles unlike Nikon and Canon. 6 minutes ago, Inazuma said: They really knocked it out of the park with this camera didn't they. With a BSI 24mp sensor maybe SLOG won't be neccessary...? Can anyone school me here? Maybe highlights can be brought down somehow? I don't understand why cameras need a LOG function with boosted ISO when the full dynamic range is available at iso 100 for stills? Full dynamic range is only with raw; all other formats have the tone curve baked in to a certain extent. That's why LOG is neat, since the there's a bit more latitude to play with when grading. 1 minute ago, Eric Calabros said: PJ still market is like a dead body. Way fewer people buy D5/1DX style cameras these days compared to even 2012. I don't know why they suddenly decided to focus on that segment. Prestige? Halo product? I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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