Orangenz Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 8 hours ago, Jn- said: Hi OrangeNZ, GJeffrey has updated the Bmx tools in his utility. https://www.vegascreativesoftware.info/us/forum/gh5-4k-24-30p-problem--105152/#ca659398 I have also updated the zip file with newer tools. Ugh, if he just used a consistent dropbox link it wouldn't matter how many times he updated. Jeepers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted April 27, 2017 Author Share Posted April 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, Jn- said: Well you know the old saying ... don't bite the hand that feeds you? Aha, good point. Instruction PDF now from dropbox so it should always be up to date. Also links to a dropbox zip file for GJeffrey's files (on my dropbox) so will also be kept up to date. https://www.dropbox.com/s/nt2uqr5pp9xi1st/GH5 10 bit fix.pdf?dl=0 Question: would this process work if the two exe files were just placed straight into c:\\ instead of the new ffmpeg folder? ie. making the new folder call is a bit complicated for some <= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 24 minutes ago, Jn- said: Check the Path on your system, if it's got C:\ then yes, but why bother? If you just add X:\ffmpeg\bin to the path then your done and dusted because the ffmpeg and ffprobe both reside there in the "binary" folder. If I download a more recent ffmpeg static build I put it in the very same location so the Path picks it up. I first rename the old ffmpeg to X:\ffmpeg old Thats in case theres an issue with the newer one so I can go back, but, do whatever works for you Orangenz? I'm thinking there's a lot of people in the world who really don't need to be playing with such things. When I was going through the instructions I got the impression it was to /ffmpeg and you had to move the ffmpeg exe there. As you describe it makes more sense but I'm still trying to think of a way to make it easier for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyalinejim Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Big thanks for this! I'm just getting to grips with the 10bit files. It took After Effects 1min 30s to import a folder of 10bit HD MOVs versus 15 seconds for the rewrapped MXFs. Jn- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSet Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Cinema5d saying that Adobe will have the GH5 fix in place by June so a while longer.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Just got the camera, and found there is a little wrinkle in the workflow. The MXFs are being marked with a .9375 pixel aspect ratio in the re-wrapping of C4K files (4096x2160); this results in a slightly squeezed frame, into a 16:9 ratio. It should be a 1.896 ratio (1.0 pixel aspect ratio), and at the moment I am correcting it with 'interpret footage' in Premiere at the outset. hyalinejim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted May 5, 2017 Author Share Posted May 5, 2017 8 hours ago, Sage said: Just got the camera, and found there is a little wrinkle in the workflow. The MXFs are being marked with a .9375 pixel aspect ratio in the re-wrapping of C4K files (4096x2160); this results in a slightly squeezed frame, into a 16:9 ratio. It should be a 1.896 ratio (1.0 pixel aspect ratio), and at the moment I am correcting it with 'interpret footage' in Premiere at the outset. I'm getting 1.0 pixel ratio, PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinJohnson Posted May 5, 2017 Share Posted May 5, 2017 I have the same issue with the re-wrap for the C4k files. Windows 10. Plus I have 3 frames off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 On 05/05/2017 at 9:19 PM, JustinJohnson said: I have the same issue with the re-wrap for the C4k files. Windows 10. Plus I have 3 frames off. Have you tried a manual rewrap using ffmpeg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihon84 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Well, color shift to yallow and more contrasted vlog after re-wrap to mxf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyalinejim Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 For me there's no difference in AE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 2 hours ago, tihon84 said: Well, color shift to yallow and more contrasted vlog after re-wrap to mxf Rewrap won't do that. What's your player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihon84 Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Orangenz said: Rewrap won't do that. What's your player? I just import mxf and mo4 files un AE and compare. Noticeble contrast in mxf and shift to yallow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Orangenz said: Rewrap won't do that. What's your player? Thank you for taking the time to share this workflow. It really makes the files workable Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 hey everyone have adobe commented on this issues? are gona get fix ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 hey everyone have adobe commented on this issues? are gona get fix ? Edit: got sick of transcoding so just rolledback to prev version €19.99 a month for what? ffs (ranting) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 50 minutes ago, Rinad Amir said: hey everyone have adobe commented on this issues? are gona get fix ? Edit: got sick of transcoding so just rolledback to prev version €19.99 a month for what? ffs (ranting) Yes they have commented, yes they are working on something. This thread is mostly about rewrapping, not transcoding. 9 hours ago, tihon84 said: I just import mxf and mo4 files un AE and compare. Noticeble contrast in mxf and shift to yallow To keep things out of the subjective realm it would be good to take a 2 second clip of a color chart, then screen shot the various wave form monitors for the files as they appear in your editor. jonpais 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Orangenz said: Yes they have commented, yes they are working on something. This thread is mostly about rewrapping, not transcoding. To keep things out of the subjective realm it would be good to take a 2 second clip of a color chart, then screen shot the various wave form monitors for the files as they appear in your editor. your absolutely right @Orangenz apologys , i just got so frustrated with adobe products lately Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinJohnson Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 12 hours ago, tihon84 said: I just import mxf and mo4 files un AE and compare. Noticeble contrast in mxf and shift to yallow This is how I figured out it was a luminance issue. When I tested the re-wrap, I tested on a working 8-bit file. I stacked the mp4 above the mxf file in Premier pro and when I hid the mp4 file it was obvious that 1) The frames didn't match up and 2) the contrast was different.. as if Premier pro was reading the wrong luminance level. So then I did 3 more mp4 files at different luminance settings and the limited range ones looked fine, even sometimes matching the frame perfectly. Then I tried it in 10-bit and found the 10-bit files work without having to re-wrap as long as luminance was not set to full range (0-1023). So, I just decided to wait it out for Adobe and just shoot in limited luminance for now. They stated they are working on it, and should have it out soon Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihon84 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 6 hours ago, JustinJohnson said: This is how I figured out it was a luminance issue. When I tested the re-wrap, I tested on a working 8-bit file. I stacked the mp4 above the mxf file in Premier pro and when I hid the mp4 file it was obvious that 1) The frames didn't match up and 2) the contrast was different.. as if Premier pro was reading the wrong luminance level. So then I did 3 more mp4 files at different luminance settings and the limited range ones looked fine, even sometimes matching the frame perfectly. Then I tried it in 10-bit and found the 10-bit files work without having to re-wrap as long as luminance was not set to full range (0-1023). So, I just decided to wait it out for Adobe and just shoot in limited luminance for now. They stated they are working on it, and should have it out soon In vlog 10bit you cant change a luminance settings, so all mxf files more contrasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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