JordanWright Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 I would be surprised if they put 10bit in 4k internal, more likely they will put a 10bit output Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Strong rumours that Sony will be announcing the Sony A7SIII next week on Wednesday. https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sure-sony-will-announce-new-camera-around-october-25-new-a7iii-a7siii/ Rumoured specs coming later today. Philip Bloom and a lot of other filmmakers of that ilk were out in Japan a few weeks ago for a "celebration of photography" event that didn't sound quite right, it could have been to test out this new camera. Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 11, 2017 Super Members Share Posted October 11, 2017 "Strong rumors" is a bit strong. "While I still have no SR5 rumor about what kind of camera we will get ….I got these two new informations you have to take with a grain of salt:" Personally I find it extremely unlikely that its the A7siii. Simply because Sony has never done that before. They have always released the A7 and A7r versions first. But who knows, maybe the are ready to switch mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 They only need to take A9 and add 4K 60p, some form of 10bit codec/output, picture profiles, reduce rolling shutter, and it will be a great camera. Now a GH5 killer for double the price, I am not sure. https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-sony-a7siii-a9s-announced-october-18-full-frame-gh5-killer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 If it is a FF GH5 with all features (AF, battery life...) of A9 for 3500 I am in. If it has less spec (no 4k60p..) and/or costs as much as A9 no thank you they can keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 27 minutes ago, wolf33d said: If it is a FF GH5 with all features (AF, battery life...) of A9 for 3500 I am in. If it has less spec (no 4k60p..) and/or costs as much as A9 no thank you they can keep it. In any case, it will be hard to beat the Queen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 4 hours ago, wolf33d said: If it is a FF GH5 with all features (AF, battery life...) of A9 for 3500 I am in. If it has less spec (no 4k60p..) and/or costs as much as A9 no thank you they can keep it. Logical exercise: Make a camera B with 20% more features than camera A, that costs 20% less than said camera A. EthanAlexander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Kisaha said: Logical exercise: Make a camera B with 20% more features than camera A, that costs 20% less than said camera A. ? Nikon D850 packs tons of more things for many photographs than Nikon D5. And it uses D5 AF. Yet it is so less expensive. A9 is expensive because aiming at D5 and 1DX with extreme speed and shooting burst. There is no reason why A7SIII should cost 4500$ just because it gets the same battery as A9 and AF. See above exemple. Especially when the amazing GH5 costs 1999. Your comment is as irrelevant as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Forget GH5 pricing. GH4 came out a $1699 yet A7SII was $3000. Full Frame is always going to cost more than M43. I have my doubts on it being A9S, more likely A7SIII. A lot of A9 features don't make sense on a video centric follow up. Better battery life, dual card slots & touch screen however would be most welcome. I highly doubt 10-bit 422 4K internal, that would place it above FS5! at best 10-bit 422 1080p and I even doubt that. Probably just ergonomic enhancements and PDAF with new BSI sensor. Maybe a bump in HFR or no crop 120fps. EthanAlexander 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefactory Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 The new model of Sony normally is always more expensive starting list price than the last model. So if the a7sii listed at $3000 i would expect the new model to be more. They also try and protect the pricing on the old model as well. I have found that prices drop just before a new release then return to normal once the new product is announced. At least that’s what seems to happen in Australia. Hope I’m wrong and its priced like the old model. But gut feeling is its going to hurt the wallet big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 12, 2017 Super Members Share Posted October 12, 2017 Here new Sony models often get a pretty decent discount just a few weeks after release and then it goes up again. I guess they want to sell all the leftovers from the initial stock before returning to just keep one or two on the shelve per store. I still haven't seen the A7sii as low as I paid about a month after release. Its been much more expensive since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 SAR is a fucking joke, it more like Sony Press Release (SPR) instead of rumors as Sony pretty much killed the rumor bit after the hacking scandal. The Sony camera in here doesn't hold value, A7S with movecam cage sold for $700, two A7RII sold for $1600ish this week and few weeks before, while 5D3 can sell for more. Same for Canon 6D which can sell for high $$ than A7II, not many a7sii for sale so I guess people still hold on to it.. until A7SIII or A9S released lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil A Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, ntblowz said: SAR is a fucking joke, it more like Sony Press Release (SPR) instead of rumors as Sony pretty much killed the rumor bit after the hacking scandal. The Sony camera in here doesn't hold value, A7S with movecam cage sold for $700, two A7RII sold for $1600ish this week and few weeks before, while 5D3 can sell for more. Same for Canon 6D which can sell for high $$ than A7II, not many a7sii for sale so I guess people still hold on to it.. until A7SIII or A9S released lol. Where is "in here"? In Germany a used A7r II will run you upwards of 2000€ and the A7s II is never to be seen on the used market. You'll still pay 2999 € for a new one, considering it came out over 2 years ago. Price development roughly comparable with the Canon 5D III I think. The times where the Sony prices plummeted like nothing and a new model came every year are obviously over (which is good and bad, depending on perspective). I'd expect a new A7s III to MSRP around 4000€ in Germany. Don Kotlos and Gregormannschaft 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 4 hours ago, ntblowz said: SAR is a fucking joke, it more like Sony Press Release (SPR) instead of rumors as Sony pretty much killed the rumor bit after the hacking scandal. Right. The next announcement should be A7III, not A7SIII. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Kotlos Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 7 hours ago, Phil A said: I'd expect a new A7s III to MSRP around 4000€ in Germany. Yep, I am expecting a similar price in USD as well. Will it be worth it? If they fix that rolling shutter, add 10bit output and 4k 60p, maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 The Sony camera loose value quite quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Seems to me that Sony cameras have been generally holding their own for value quite well. I have sold a few cameras and the one I lost the biggest amount on was a Canon and then a Pentax and the Sony A7 I sold after two years solid use got a fair price when I needed the money. The original A7s is close to being a couple of generations old but still sells for more than I would have thought (most of the time) but then it is still about the best low light camera for stills and HD video around. You can still buy first generation Sony A7 series cameras new here though (as well as Nikon cameras a couple of models old). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinPhoto Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 SonlyAlpha rumors has zero credibility and even less sources. The site is a page-view advertising income for somebody with a very polarizing view of the world in general (i.e. "DxOmark sensor test: Nikon D850 tops the Sony A7rII by a margin of two points"). SonyAlpha "sources" do not exist. The person that runs the site makes up things to generate page hits and ad revenue for him. He often "reads between the lines" from other forums, and in general, speculates on features and releases -- "99% sure Sony will announce something in the next 3-5 weeks" etc. To make it worse the site NEVER guessed anything correctly until AFTER all the other rumor sites make an announcement. The site is a joke and ad revenue for somebody with a total shill personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted October 12, 2017 Super Members Share Posted October 12, 2017 Sonys always drop like stones on the used narket here. So does Panasonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefactory Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 26 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said: Sonys always drop like stones on the used narket here. So does Panasonic. I put an a6300 up for sale in my area. Paid $1649 Austrlian dollars and getting offers under half that. It’s still has a great image and thinking I might keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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