Chrad Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 If you're interested in the new cameras (who isn't?), you might want to head to DSLR News Shooter in about 8 1/2 hours. At 12:00 PM PST they're streaming a live Q&A with Blackmagic, here: http://www.newsshooter.com/2013/04/08/watch-our-newsshooterteradek-live-coverage-of-nab-2013-from-1200pm-pacific-time-tomorrow-live-guests-include-blackmagic-design/ dahlfors 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 You can preorder the 4K BMCC. GBP 2699 ex. vat. Sadly no preorder for the Pocket Cinema Camera. http://www.newsshooter.com/2013/04/08/blackmagic-design-4k-super-35mm-cinema-camera-ready-to-pre-order/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I preordered the S35 one at CVP. Having seen how long it took people to get theirs, I figure it's best to stick the order in and just cancel if I change my mind! You have about a year-long cooling off period ;) Julian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Let us not forget Canon have only just released the 1D C. It is not as if it is an old camera. And they want to charge a $6k premium for basically a firmware upgrade to shoot crappy MJPEG 4k, with no other video features. I hope I never have to give that loathsome, corrupt company any of my hard earned money again. Julian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtheory Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I preordered the S35 one at CVP. Having seen how long it took people to get theirs, I figure it's best to stick the order in and just cancel if I change my mind! You have about a year-long cooling off period ;) Just pre-ordered mine too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Damn... you fast! Camera has not been officially announced yet - and you guys have already preordered it :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirrorkisser Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 one more thing that was mentioned elsewhere about the pocket camera: with the cropfactor of the sensor a 7mm full frame equals roughly 21mm on this baby. so it wont be easy to get really wide on that camera. still for that price and package i am all sold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Without a doubt, the whole Film World (Indie Filmmakers included) has just witnessed, a group night fall. F%$king Insane. What are these guys on? Please throw the original BMCC into the sea, and deliver these, within the coming year. R.I.P. RED, Canon C Range, Alexa, all DSLRs used for video, Sony's entire 'F' range etc. Maybe, people can dump them, into the sea ... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxotis70 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 so, its 3x crop factor for the small one ? Are you sure… mft is only 2x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrad Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 so, its 3x crop factor for the small one ? Are you sure… mft is only 2x. This one is super 16mm. Smaller than MFT. The crop factor (vs full frame stills cameras) should be close to 3x. The upside of this is that you can use old C-Mount 16mm lenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreensPro Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Just pre-ordered mine too. Me too... may as well get in while most of USA is still asleep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 one more thing that was mentioned elsewhere about the pocket camera: with the cropfactor of the sensor a 7mm full frame equals roughly 21mm on this baby. so it wont be easy to get really wide on that camera. still for that price and package i am all sold! With the m4/3 lenses you will get quite wide. Also keep in mind the Metabones Speedboster. I bet that will be a perfect fit for this camera :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 My guess is the pocket camera uses the same sensor as the original BMCC. Hence the same 13 stops of dynamic range. They are just reading a smaller window from the middle of the sensor to give full HD output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I don't think in terms of full-frame personally, I've only really shot with APSC and S35 at great length, so when I "see" 50mm in my mind I "see" how it looks on a so-called 1.6 crop. If you're talking about stills, then fine it's 3x. If you're talking about film, it's a 2x crop, and Super 35 is standard. That's how I see it anyway, 135-film size shooting (photographic full frame, 5D Mkii, iii and 6D) is a special case and special use (very low light, very shallow DOF). It's a negative crop of x0.6 or so. Chrad and Leang 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/p/ Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Where can I pre-order the pocket version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurtinMinorKey Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 lol. what a slap to the face! Might as well delete the BMC forums! Ya'll got slapped! I don't think so. It's still produces the best footage of any camera under $10K. v2 might not be out for over a year. When does the s35 ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eosjames Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Without a doubt, the whole Film World (Indie Filmmakers included) has just witnessed, a group night fall. F%$king Insane. What are these guys on? Please throw the original BMCC into the sea, and deliver these, within the coming year. R.I.P. RED, Canon C Range, Alexa, all DSLRs used for video, Sony's entire 'F' range etc. Maybe, people can dump them, into the sea ... ;-) 4K RAW has arrived at 4K price. Patience has paid off. It'll be a good while though before it becomes available but at least we know where to go. So, i'll guess it should be available in a year time to most of us. Like you said Sanveer....this just exposed all the weak marketing and pricepoints of the entire Canon line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgharding Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Where can I pre-order the pocket version? At this moment, you can't... keep an eye out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Without a doubt, the whole Film World (Indie Filmmakers included) has just witnessed, a group night fall. F%$king Insane. What are these guys on? Please throw the original BMCC into the sea, and deliver these, within the coming year. R.I.P. RED, Canon C Range, Alexa, all DSLRs used for video, Sony's entire 'F' range etc. Maybe, people can dump them, into the sea ... ;-) S16 Crop factor is about 2,88x. Sigma 8-16mm: ~ 23-46mm Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 + Speed Booster: ~22,5-33mm f/2.0 (drool) ou could put the 8-16mm on the Speed Booster if you want wider... Samyang is working on a 10mm f/2.8 prime for aps-c, that might be a good one as well at 29mm without or 20mm with Speed Booster. There are plenty of options for this sensor size nowadays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikolaOvcharski Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 One problem with the BMCC mini: how the hell do you record uncompressed RAW to SD cards? EDIT: Looking around, seems you'd want a bunch of these: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/841569-REG/Lexar_LCF128CTBNA1000_128GB_CompactFlash_Memory_Card.html You'd need at least a 125 MB/s write speed. 128GB gets you 15 minutes of footage, so still better than the film days. And of course, you can reuse the cards. Pro-Res is of course the saner option. This is a CF card, not a SD :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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