Teemu Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Hi! I write short experience from last weekend. We had really long day studio shoots. We had this really huge practical effect build by our special effect guy, 50+ hours of work. Really awsome looking. I shot with my GH5 + my brand new few times tested Lexar 128GB 1000x memory card. We had shot all we needed and I took out the card. In the beginning of this week I took the card and put it to my computer. It said needs to be formatted. Tried 7 different data rescue softwares, nothing. I went local service where they do data rescue. They inspected it for two hours, nothing. Now I am in the moment we lost everything, and I tried to format the card. Can't do it in any camera body. Not on my computer in any fileformat system (deep or quick format). It is just completely destroyed. I am afraid to cut the card half with scissors or machete, because I think those will brake apart first. So my experience is now following: do not buy any Lexar cards ever, period. Inazuma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 i hear nothing but bad things about lexar cards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I use Lexar CF cards and they work great... Maybe you got a fake card, I would send it back for a replacment/ refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, tweak said: I use Lexar CF cards and they work great... Maybe you got a fake card, I would send it back for a replacment/ refund. Yeah I did send it back for refund. I will change brand. It's ordered from "official" dealer here in Finland. But who knows witch is fake and witch is not fake... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 37 minutes ago, Teemu said: Yeah I did send it back for refund. I will change brand. It's ordered from "official" dealer here in Finland. But who knows witch is fake and witch is not fake... Indeed, which witch is which? hyalinejim and Teemu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Anecdotal evidence cannot be a basis of overall brand reputation (I never used Lexar, but also never heard anything good/bad about them). In hindsight, you should've used the dual card slots for their intended purpose. Sorry for your loss, hopefully we can all learn a valuable lesson here. jonpais, Don Kotlos and tweak 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, tweak said: Indeed, which witch is which? Haha. Nice typos I made there :D Well there definetly was some WITCH powers around. 14 minutes ago, JurijTurnsek said: Anecdotal evidence cannot be a basis of overall brand reputation (I never used Lexar, but also never heard anything good/bad about them). In hindsight, you should've used the dual card slots for their intended purpose. Sorry for your loss, hopefully we can all learn a valuable lesson here. Yes, should use dual card recording. Expensive lesson learned: Use dual card recording and spit over your left shoulder when you see a Lexar card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhnkng Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I have 3 Lexar CF cards and 15 Sandisk SD and CF cards, and two of those Lexar cards have been replaced under warranty while I've not had a single issue with any of my Sandisk cards. It's circumstantial evidence at best, but I only buy Sandisk cards. Cinegain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Over at Amazon, the Lexar 128GB UHSII 1000X averages 4.4/5 stars by some 1,764 customers. Like batteries, there are lots of fakes that are virtually indistinguishable from the genuine article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 I prefer to buy batteries and memory cards from camera stores - Amazon is awash with inferior copies of small 'everyday' peripheral items. DBounce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Pierre Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Yes...your's is not the first bad experience with Alexa....I stick with Sandisk Extreme Pro....both in SD and SSD format...never a single failure....simply to much at stake when you do anything like you described in your opening post...or a wedding or anything professional for that matter! Cinegain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 40 minutes ago, Fritz Pierre said: Yes...your's is not the first bad experience with Alexa....I stick with Sandisk Extreme Pro....both in SD and SSD format...never a single failure....simply to much at stake when you do anything like you described in your opening post...or a wedding or anything professional for that matter! Yeah that's right. I have one experience in past that one card corrupted on shooting when copied it to laptop. All other people in the crew was horrified and I was calming them down. Got Everything back from that card with data rescue software. But this time it was strangest case ever. It was corrupted after that long shooting day. We even watched playback about the very last shot of the day via camera. After that everything was just downhill. The card was corrupted so badly that computer/rescue software's only recognized it as 7,60gb drive... Even that it is 128gb card. Tried to format it with panasonic, canon and sony cameras, nothing. With computer and all formatting methods, nothing. So totally destroyed card. Just rubbish. And I bought it from local camera store. Well now it is returned and I will switch to Sandisk or Transcend cards. Those haven't failed me. After all, we have now scheduled re-shoots and recreating the practical effects... And this time even better than last time! So take that Lexar! You can't but us down so easily! :D If you're going to try, go all the way. Otherwise, don't even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives and maybe even your mind material... – Charles Bukowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 9 hours ago, jhnkng said: only buy Sandisk cards. 7 hours ago, Fritz Pierre said: stick with Sandisk Extreme Pro ^^ With these guys on this one! Such a solid track record. Over the years I've been through Transcend, Samsung, Lexar, ADATA, Kingston, Integral etc and not one dare touch the solidity that's SanDisk Extreme Pro. Then again, I guess that's why they're for the 'Extreme Pro' after all. They've been serving me well since the hacked GH2 days and they were always the ones that allowed spanning and just being reliable. Also agree with Jurij though, that with every brand, probably even SanDisk has these things happen... just when it happens to you, it's like hitting your toe against a rock... and you're not that eager to experience that again! I totally get that. I've a couple Lexars SDs still lying around, mostly just for multimedia entertainment purposes (like a cheap and super small SSD (adapter with cable -> laptop/tablet/smartphone)), but I wouldn't really trust 'em that much either. Alone the fact that they trick me into buying them by being the manufacturer with the largest number on a card... a self-invented rating standard... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted May 23, 2017 Super Members Share Posted May 23, 2017 The advantage with the large capacity cards is also their biggest potential undoing in that because you can get by without changing them all day then when they do fail you've lost far more. I prefer to stick with lots of smaller capacity ones and swap them more often to mitigate the risk. Funnily enough by the way, I've actually just made a multi card DIY Nexto device for just this purpose that can automatically back up a simultaneous combination of 3 sd and micro sd cards and a CF card onto an SSD. I'll put it up on here so you can have a look once it's in a proper box and not just blutacked together! Cinegain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Nice! Yeah, I tend to stick to a bunch of 64GB as well. Also the buck per GB hasn't completely been pushed into the advantage of higher capacity. Usually the higher volume you get, the cheaper you get each. SSDs are starting to get that way now too. I guess it's just harder to get done for SDs because the microsizing is providing a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Well the anecdotal bad evidence against can Lexar can be matched with my opposite, good experience. I've been rolling with two 64 GB Lexar 2000x UHS-II cards for 2+ years now without a single issue. Sorry you lost your footage though, that sucks man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Pierre Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Teemu said: Yeah that's right. I have one experience in past that one card corrupted on shooting when copied it to laptop. All other people in the crew was horrified and I was calming them down. Got Everything back from that card with data rescue software. But this time it was strangest case ever. It was corrupted after that long shooting day. We even watched playback about the very last shot of the day via camera. After that everything was just downhill. The card was corrupted so badly that computer/rescue software's only recognized it as 7,60gb drive... Even that it is 128gb card. Tried to format it with panasonic, canon and sony cameras, nothing. With computer and all formatting methods, nothing. So totally destroyed card. Just rubbish. And I bought it from local camera store. Well now it is returned and I will switch to Sandisk or Transcend cards. Those haven't failed me. After all, we have now scheduled re-shoots and recreating the practical effects... And this time even better than last time! So take that Lexar! You can't but us down so easily! :D If you're going to try, go all the way. Otherwise, don't even start. This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives and maybe even your mind material... – Charles Bukowski Sorry I meant to type Lexar....that is bizarre as in order to allow you to preview your dailies in the camera, the info clearly was in the card...the question is then what happened to it...I've only heard of problems related to the Lexars related to the GH5 but in fairness I tend to pay attention to the Pannys...and less so to issues with Canons or Sonys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Fritz Pierre said: Sorry I meant to type Lexar....that is bizarre as in order to allow you to preview your dailies in the camera, the info clearly was in the card...the question is then what happened to it...I've only heard of problems related to the Lexars related to the GH5 but in fairness I tend to pay attention to the Pannys...and less so to issues with Canons or Sonys Yeah. Well only thing that pops up to my mind is that I turned off my GH5 and took out the card too early = was still "writing" or marking something on the card when shutting down. Or I took it out when the camera was on (not recording) and it was doing something with the card... But for sure I can tell we played back shots all day long via camera play mode. Everything was playing back just fine. I remember saying to my friend just before popping out the card "oh, I should remember to take this with me. Don't want to lose this material..." Maybe that was the last bit for the card! So I think it must be a human error. Me popping out the card just one second too early or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz Pierre Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 But there is a learnable moment in this for all...although cameras and media are ridiculously cheap compared to the "old days" an additional expense that should, though probably rarely is factored in, should be a robust RAID /system on any set as is the case in @Teemu's experience...allowing for smaller cards to be used and captured on set, so one may lose 20 min of data on a card but not the whole day...that's what makes the GH5's dual card system so invaluable. 23 minutes ago, Teemu said: Yeah. Well only thing that pops up to my mind is that I turned off my GH5 and took out the card too early = was still "writing" or marking something on the card when shutting down. Or I took it out when the camera was on (not recording) and it was doing something with the card... But for sure I can tell we played back shots all day long via camera play mode. Everything was playing back just fine. I remember saying to my friend just before popping out the card "oh, I should remember to take this with me. Don't want to lose this material..." Maybe that was the last bit for the card! So I think it must be a human error. Me popping out the card just one second too early or something. I know I've read about this same thing on another forum...once you've viewed it the info is there....though of little consolation, the cards write in real time...period...this is not something you did...except possibly popping the card out with the camera on, corrupted the file in that instant...I don't have experience with that, but I don't even remove a lens or an HDMI cable with my cameras powered on...the mystery is you probably had over a 100 gigs of info on the card....and as this is not my area of expertease (vast understatement here)....could it be reading the card/ drive as 7 something gigs capacity as the rest is filled up!...that may mean that data is still on the card?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teemu Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Fritz Pierre said: But there is a learnable moment in this for all...although cameras and media are ridiculously cheap compared to the "old days" an additional expense that should, though probably rarely is factored in, should be a robust RAID /system on any set as is the case in @Teemu's experience...allowing for smaller cards to be used and captured on set, so one may lose 20 min of data on a card but not the whole day...that's what makes the GH5's dual card system so invaluable. @Fritz Pierre, Well said. There is definitely learning for everybody. Backup, backup and backup = even to the level where others think you are paranoid with backup's. OR Re-shoot, re-shoot and re-shoot = you will have stomach ulcer thanks to the stress and lowered lifetime expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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