Would You Perhaps Be Interested In A Different GX80/85 Colour Profile???

Lentozo · June 21, 2017

7 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

"I don't have one but maybe someone who does could chime in if they've tested it.

The G6 was a fail so I'm not sure where the GX7 sits in the chronology relative to that so wouldn't like to guess."

Just tried several times but I can not get it to work.

The Handbrake returns "err_non_support", connect replies "Ok" and no Cinelike profile can be loaded.

Same as Hugues Canadaa above.

Too bad. It would have been great but my camera seems to be rather old (or odd)...

Joe F · June 22, 2017

Just signed in to say a big thank you to BTM_Pix for you efforts in realising this very snuckily sweet upgrade, squeezing a little extra love out of the Lumix mini-beasty Great job, and many successes on your hardware implementation. Kudos to you and this community.

BTM_Pix · June 22, 2017

14 hours ago, Lentozo said:

Just tried several times but I can not get it to work.

The Handbrake returns "err_non_support", connect replies "Ok" and no Cinelike profile can be loaded.

Same as Hugues Canadaa above.

Too bad. It would have been great but my camera seems to be rather old (or odd)...

The Handshake probably isn't necessary as the older cameras didn't have the encrypted connection so the err non connect is expected and OK so don't worry about that.

As long as you get an OK on Connect and the camera says under remote control then its working.

To confirm that, change the colour profile to black and white or vivid or something else and hit Restore and it should change to the Standard profile.

With regard to Cinelike D bear in mind that it won't show the colour profile so if there is a blank where the colour profile name would be on the screen then its worked.

If not, then you'll still be able to benefit from the hardware controller with your camera so stick around

1 hour ago, Joe F said:

Just signed in to say a big thank you to BTM_Pix for you efforts in realising this very snuckily sweet upgrade, squeezing a little extra love out of the Lumix mini-beasty Great job, and many successes on your hardware implementation. Kudos to you and this community.

Thank you.

Make sure you stick around and join the community testing effort for the hardware controller

Screengrab · June 22, 2017

Dear folks,

I have been stealthily snooping around and making grateful use of your experiments and knowledge exchange. Thought I'd pay it back with a little test: Cinelike D.

Settings: 0, -5, -5, -3. GX80 had a Olympus 12mm, and the G80 a 17mm, for the rest settings are all the same. Hope it's worth your while.

Jpg 1 is G80, 2 is GX80.

Lentozo · June 22, 2017

Below you can see ALL settings for M Mode on my GX7.

As you can see the cinelike modes do not appear anywhere, so that's why I can not enable them.

BUT what might be useful is the auto iso option in M Mode (highlighted in red colour) which now is disabled and I think that it can be enabled but i do not know how to do it!

Any help with that?

Thank you.

</mainmenu>

</photosettings>

<item id="menu_item_id_sensitivity_auto" enable="no"/>

<item id="menu_item_id_sensitivity_i_iso" enable="no"/>

</qmenu2>

</menuinfo>

</camrply>

BTM_Pix · June 22, 2017

3 minutes ago, Lentozo said:

Below you can see ALL settings for M Mode on my GX7.

As you can see the cinelike modes do not appear anywhere, so that's why I can not enable them.

BUT what might be useful is the auto iso option in M Mode (highlighted in red colour) which now is disabled and I think that it can be enabled but i do not know how to do it!

Any help with that?

Thank you.

The enable purely tells the app what to display to the user, it doesn't determine what the camera is capable of doing but just what the app enables the user to tell it to do.

By and large, this does correspond with the camera's capabilities but not always.

So, this isn't the reason why you can't get Cinelike D to work.

If you followed the instructions that I mentioned in my reply earlier regarding selecting another profile etc and you don't see a blank when you do the deploy for Cinelike D then the camera unfortunately isn't capable of doing it.

With regard to auto iso, again the enable/disable is purely to do with what the app displays to the user.

However, if you connect to the camera and send this

http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=iso&value=auto

Then if the camera is capable of the function then this command will enable it.

Lentozo · June 22, 2017

I have tried your steps but I can not deploy Cinelike D or V.

Also I sent the command (http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=iso&value=auto) to the camera but even though I see AUTO ISO I don't think it actually works.

Pointing at different lighting sources the ISO value on the screen does not change. Only the exposure meter (-3 to 3) changes accordingly for the given aperture/shutter speed values.

And it does not persist. After turning the camera off/on the iso returns to the previous settings (125 to 25600) and no auto option available. The same happens if I turn the dial to change ISO. Once I do that, I can not go back to the AUTO ISO option.

I tried saving M Mode Auto ISO settings to C3 but after rebooting all custom settings are lost and only the default settings are available.

Could it be that we have to change ALL these commands:

to:

as in all other modes which have auto iso?

BTM_Pix · June 22, 2017

You're going to have to trust me over this enable thing

The enable is only to tell the app what to display to the user.

There is no enable command sent back to the camera. It is only sent one way and that from the camera to the app.

I wasn't suggesting you weren't following the steps, I was saying that if you were and it didn't work then it was because the camera was not capable of doing it rather than anything to do with the enable status.

If you've enabled Auto ISO - and again only if your camera is actually capable of doing it - you should see the ISO change on your display when you do a half press of the shutter.

If you take a series of photographs pointing at different light sources with Auto ISO on then you should see on playback that it was using different ISO values for each shot.

If you put the camera in aperture priority mode in movie mode with Auto ISO on and take a few clips of differing light sources you should again see on playback that it is displaying that it is recording them at different ISOs.

However, if we are talking at cross purposes over Auto ISO in manual mode (and I suspect we might be) and you are wanting to do it while the camera is recording video then it won't do it as it (and the GX80 for that matter) do not support Auto ISO in manual mode in video and you have to use shutter or aperture priority.

7 hours ago, Screengrab said:

Dear folks,

I have been stealthily snooping around and making grateful use of your experiments and knowledge exchange. Thought I'd pay it back with a little test: Cinelike D.

Settings: 0, -5, -5, -3. GX80 had a Olympus 12mm, and the G80 a 17mm, for the rest settings are all the same. Hope it's worth your while.

Jpg 1 is G80, 2 is GX80.

So we've extended the life line of your GX80 without you having to cross Panasonic's palm with silver is the symbolism here then

Screengrab · June 23, 2017

9 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

So we've extended the life line of your GX80 without you having to cross Panasonic's palm with silver is the symbolism here then

It's awesome. Once you start using cinelike D, it's hard to go back. Skin tones are so much nicer. Thanks, man. Never bothered with the NTSC hack, but this is SO much more useful.

Still prefer the G80 for the mic input, the ergonomics and the button layout, and I have high hopes for the better balance with the upcoming 17mm 1.2 PRO, but...

Thanks, man. Finally happy again with my twin combo.

Thpriest · June 23, 2017

I'm having trouble doing the GX85 cinelike d installation with my phone. The html won't open in chrome (does't give the option to open it) and firefox opens it but it's blank. Is it possible to do it through my iMac?

BTM_Pix · June 23, 2017

37 minutes ago, Thpriest said:

I'm having trouble doing the GX85 cinelike d installation with my phone. The html won't open in chrome (does't give the option to open it) and firefox opens it but it's blank. Is it possible to do it through my iMac?

Yes.

Just put the camera into wifi mode, connect the Mac to its WiFi and load the HTML file into Safari

Chris Oh · June 23, 2017

1 hour ago, Thpriest said:

I'm having trouble doing the GX85 cinelike d installation with my phone. The html won't open in chrome (does't give the option to open it) and firefox opens it but it's blank. Is it possible to do it through my iMac?

Try different browser. I tried on Samsung browser and it worked, even after it gave me a Wi-Fi not available message.

Trexo · June 24, 2017

Really thx to BTM_Pix. Can anybody confirm that this method working on latest 1.2 firmware?

And can you please explain me - do I need to do Wi-Fi connection everitime or I can store it to C?

Anaconda_ · June 24, 2017

Is there any light on the LOG situation?

BTM_Pix · June 24, 2017

56 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said:

Is there any light on the LOG situation?

Yes, there's much more of it in the shadows

I'm awaiting the session capture from an old firmware GH4 to finally extinguish everyone's hopes of it being doable.

Anaconda_ · June 25, 2017

On 6/24/2017 at 10:15 AM, Trexo said:

Really thx to BTM_Pix. Can anybody confirm that this method working on latest 1.2 firmware?

And can you please explain me - do I need to do Wi-Fi connection everitime or I can store it to C?

It does work on 1.2 firmware. Once it's loaded, you can save it to C or save it as the custom Photo Style (press disp. once you've fine tuned the settings), either way, you don't need to re-do it every time you turn the camera on.

You'll konw if it's worked because the name of the Photo Style will be blank, where others say 'Standard' 'Vivid' etc.

BTM_Pix - I just saw a thread about focus ramping time lapses:

As it's also done through a browser, is there a way to include that option into this html. file? Then all these sweet tweaks will be in one place. I know nothing about how you're doing what you're doing, otherwise I'd give it a go myself haha

BTM_Pix · June 25, 2017

53 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said:

It does work on 1.2 firmware. Once it's loaded, you can save it to C or save it as the custom Photo Style (press disp. once you've fine tuned the settings), either way, you don't need to re-do it every time you turn the camera on.

You'll konw if it's worked because the name of the Photo Style will be blank, where others say 'Standard' 'Vivid' etc.

BTM_Pix - I just saw a thread about focus ramping time lapses:

As it's also done through a browser, is there a way to include that option into this html. file? Then all these sweet tweaks will be in one place. I know nothing about how you're doing what you're doing, otherwise I'd give it a go myself haha

Yes and no.

It eventually ends up being sent out as http requests so yes from that point of view but there is FAR more going on behind the scenes to get it to send the messages that you actually want to so its a no from a practical point of view.

All of the effort regarding what can be done with this stuff will be merged within the hardware controller. The focus aspect of it in the controller will be targeted at live control and, with the wind in the right direction, an A/B or even A/B/C focus transition control.

Have a look at the other threads for work in progress.

Not much progress this week as I'm on holiday though !

Anaconda_ · June 25, 2017

Ah cool, have been following both projects. enjoy the holiday!

sanveer · July 1, 2017

I guess that's the end of the VLog on the GX85.

BTM_Pix · July 1, 2017

29 minutes ago, sanveer said:

I guess that's the end of the VLog on the GX85.

The GH4 capture from a forum user hasn't materialised so thats the blocker right now.

When it does, it will be looked at to see if it can be harvested or not.

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