PannySVHS Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Hallo! I am a sucker for 28mm. My Canon FD 28mm 2.8 is a beautiful lens. Most of you guys have shot with one. Or anybody out there who has not tried it yet? Not possible! I´m shooting it on m43 with a Lens Turbo giving me beautiful S35 look. Wide open it is as good as the Rokinon/Samyang 24mm 1.4 at 2.8! But I am looking for that F2.0 magic. So I bought a Kiron 28mm F2.0 in brandnew condition. But boy, wide open it is not satisfying at all! I´ve read that the Vivitar 28mm F2.0 is a different beast but so was my Kiron supposed to be. The Vivitar 1.9 seems very soft as well. So any suggestions for the bargain shopper for a nice 28 mill 2.0? The Zeiss and Pentax lenses usually go way beyond the 400 USD mark. Maybe a Canon FD 28 2.0 will do. So what are your 28mm F2.0 super deals of the season? Something like: -Nikon 28mm 2.0 -Canon FD 28 2.0 -Minolta MD 28 2.0 -Vivitar 28 2.0 cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Isn't 28mm an awkward focal distance to work with? I much prefer 35mm but that might just be because I've always had a nice 35 knocking around. Heard good things about the Sony 28mm 2.0, but that focus by wire drives me mental. Vintage ftw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar_kevin Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I own the Canon 28mm f/2 FD. If you like the 28mm f/2.8 Canon, go for the f/2. I think I snagged mine for ~$150 and it's worth every penny. The Nikon 28/2 is awesome too, but if you like the FD coating already, go for that. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I've had all three, the Nikon, Canon and Minolta. I paid less than $200 for each of them. They are all excellent. I only kept the Nikon. But at one point I kept the Minolta and sold the Nikon. And then I bought another Nikon but just recently sold the Minolta. Really only because I don't have a camera to use the Minolta with any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoScoops Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I remember Deakins saying somewhere 28mm was his fav focal length. I guess on super 35. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 43 minutes ago, Gregormannschaft said: Isn't 28mm an awkward focal distance to work with? I much prefer 35mm but that might just be because I've always had a nice 35 knocking around. Heard good things about the Sony 28mm 2.0, but that focus by wire drives me mental. Vintage ftw! On S35 28mm is a beautiful focal length in my opinion! Since owning a GX85 I discovered that even more, because careful framing with it is a joy due to its ibis. So are talking about 35mm length on 36x24 sensor like the A7S you used to shoot some of the best A7S colors with? That would be like a 20mm on S35- beautiful as well! That modern Zeiss 28mm ZE is supposed to be a heck of a lens, for around 1000 USD though! The Sony with fly by wire focussing is supposed to be about equally as good when it comes to optical quality. 38 minutes ago, homestar_kevin said: I own the Canon 28mm f/2 FD. If you like the 28mm f/2.8 Canon, go for the f/2. Sounds great. I think I will do that. Heard good things about the Minolta too. Not sure if the Vivitar, Komine, Kiron and so versions are that different from eachother or if it´s just lens folklore and part of lensporn. By the way, different sort of bargain: www.ebay.com/itm/ZEISS-Zeiss-Distagon-T-28mm-f-2-ZE-Lens-Canon-Fit-MINT-Condition-/263007244223?hash=item3d3c740fbf:g:PmAAAOSwH09ZKiBI 14 minutes ago, mercer said: I've had all three, the Nikon, Canon and Minolta. I paid less than $200 for each of them. They are all excellent. I only kept the Nikon. But at one point I kept the Minolta and sold the Nikon. And then I bought another Nikon but just recently sold the Minolta. Really only because I don't have a camera to use the Minolta with any more. Shoot, out of likes! Lol Time big time! Gregormannschaft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, PannySVHS said: On S35 28mm is a beautiful focal length in my opinion! Since owning a GX85 I discovered that even more, because careful framing with it is a joy due to its ibis. So are talking about 35mm length on 36x24 sensor like the A7S you used to shoot some of the best A7S colors with? That would be like a 24mm on S35- beautiful as well! That modern Zeiss 28mm ZE is supposed to be a heck of a lens, for around 1000 USD though! The Sony with fly by wire focussing is supposed to be about equally as good when it comes to optical quality. Sounds great. I think I will do that. Heard good things about the Minolta too. Not sure if the Vivitar, Komine, Kiron and so versions are that different from eachother or if it´s just lens folklore and part of lensporn. By the way, different sort of bargain: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZEISS-Zeiss-Distagon-T-28mm-f-2-ZE-Lens-Canon-Fit-MINT-Condition-/263007244223?hash=item3d3c740fbf:g:PmAAAOSwH09ZKiBI Shoot, out of likes! Lol Time big time! That seems like a good price for that lens, although I've never used one, I've always drooled over the Contax Zeiss 28mm f2 "The Hollywood." I assume they're similar in characteristics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 12 minutes ago, mercer said: That seems like a good price for that lens, although I've never used one, I've always drooled over the Contax Zeiss 28mm f2 "The Hollywood." I assume they're similar in characteristics? https://phillipreeve.net/blog/old-new-zeiss-2-828-vs-sony-fe-228-vs-minolta-mc-228/ This is the closest I found when it comes to a comparison. It has the "old" Zeiss Distagon 28mm 2.8 vs the new Sony 28mm 2.0. The Zeiss 28 2.8 seems a great lens in its own right, with the 2.0 version having that little extra. Phillip also linked to a review of the "Hollywood" Zeiss, stating the nickname is deserved, beautiful Bokeh characteristics for close to distance transistions and interesting field curvage. This is an example of the wide open character in 24 MP of an A7: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jannik_peters/26124031323/sizes/o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, PannySVHS said: On S35 28mm is a beautiful focal length in my opinion! Since owning a GX85 I discovered that even more, because careful framing with it is a joy due to its ibis. So are talking about 35mm length on 36x24 sensor like the A7S you used to shoot some of the best A7S colors with? That would be like a 20mm on S35- beautiful as well! That modern Zeiss 28mm ZE is supposed to be a heck of a lens, for around 1000 USD though! The Sony with fly by wire focussing is supposed to be about equally as good when it comes to optical quality. Ah, good point! Living in a full frame bubble. There's a lot of new lens brands popping up with interesting AF-less options. Here might be a good place to talk about a few of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, Gregormannschaft said: Ah, good point! Living in a full frame bubble. There's a lot of new lens brands popping up with interesting AF-less options. Here might be a good place to talk about a few of them. Great suggestion of yours: 35mm 2.0 on full frame! A 28mm F2.0 on speedboosted m43 would be like 39mm F2.0 on full frame! Close enough I would say! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojo43 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Canon FD 28mm F2.0 used to be my go to lens. Nice colour and pretty sharp. The vivitar is also nice, but not sharp at f2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted May 31, 2017 Super Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 Ive always loved the Voigtlander 28mm f2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 18 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said: Ive always loved the Voigtlander 28mm f2. Hey Mattias! Thats an M-mount lens? A bargain for Leica lovers then:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted May 31, 2017 Super Members Share Posted May 31, 2017 6 minutes ago, PannySVHS said: Hey Mattias! Thats an M-mount lens? A bargain for Leica lovers then:) Yes it is. Easily adapted to Panasonic, Sony, Fuji. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 @Mattias Burling, did you ever get your hands around a Soligor 28 2.0? They are supposed to be made by Tokina and different from their Kiron counterpart, which is very soft and CA loving to my testing, about as good at 4.0 as Canon FD wide open at 2.8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 The Vivitar 28 f2 was made by a few different makers including Komine and Kiron. The serial number tells you who made it and there used to be a few sites around the web you could find out (maybe still can- I will search later). I had two of the Vivitar 28 f2's a few years ago used for stills. Some of them are notorious for having stuck blades due to oil (one of mine did). They were nice enough though lots of distortion. From memory both of mine were made by Kiron I think and had 22 as part of the serial number (I think?). I don't use 28 all that much so probably would use a zoom if I need that focal length these days. EDIT - yes, serial number starting 22 is Kiron, 28 is Komine for the Vivitar 28 f2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 My Kiron has a serial number starting with 7. It is Kiron/Kino made. Maybe the Komine made version is better. There are not that many 1 on 1 full resolution comparisons between these differently made lenses. Pentaxforums has been a nice source of information to me. For now, I will sell my Kiron and be happy with my FD 28 2.8 until that Pentax 2.0 crosses my way:) Or get a 28mm 2.0 Canon FD soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 My only remaining 28mm prime is an ancient Promura 2.8 m42 screwmount. It spends its days in retirement on an old Pentax Spotmatic. I should give it a run sometime ( FF and APSC and maybe M43). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 3 hours ago, PannySVHS said: @Mattias Burling, did you ever get your hands around a Soligor 28 2.0? They are supposed to be made by Tokina and different from their Kiron counterpart, which is very soft and CA loving to my testing, about as good at 4.0 as Canon FD wide open at 2.8! I had the Tokina 35mm f/2 which Soligor also rebranded. If the 35mm is any indication, then the 28mm Soligor should be a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 25 minutes ago, mercer said: I had the Tokina 35mm f/2 which Soligor also rebranded. If the 35mm is any indication, then the 28mm Soligor should be a treat. Darn! Missed an auction today. It sold with an 28-70 2.8-4.2 Macro and a 70 to something zoom for less than 35 USD. Was messing around researching for it too much! I think I will have to wait to pick another one up for that cheap! 6 hours ago, mojo43 said: Canon FD 28mm F2.0 used to be my go to lens. Nice colour and pretty sharp. The vivitar is also nice, but not sharp at f2. Great. I think I gonna give that beauty a try. Maybe the best bargain 28 F2 of the better quality ones, I would assume. FD glass is pretty awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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