Shane Essary Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=36261 here are some purpose built new lenses from russia: http://www.optica-elite.com/products/lenses-s16/ I have a feeling those are all $$$$ compared to the cheap old kinors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpy Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 They say it wont cover super 16 on short focuses distances. I have a Russian meteor 5-1 zoom and it has the same problem: vignetting appears on my nikon v1 when you focus closer than 3 meters at the widest zoom end (17mm). Also the official super 16 size (7.41mm x 12.52mm) its a bit bigger than the bmpcc sensor (7.02mm x 12.48mm) so... it might be OK?? The problem is that the only kinor16-m43 adapter costs 300$, which is more than the lens itself. If there were just a cheap chinese kinor-micro 4/3 I would be keen to buy and test... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Essary Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 I hear ya. The reason I decided to go ahead and try was because even with the cost of the adaptor, the 12-120mm zoom + adaptor was still about half the price of a, say Angenieux 12-120mm c-mount, and the other primes I picked up for about $100 each were just gravy. It was a calculated risk on my end, and if all else fails, I have some interesting lenses to have in my collection.. :) Honestly, I think the 10mm end is going to vignette as the 12mm on mine just barely covers it and my 10mm prime does vignette (see the video). Anyway, I might pick up the 10-100 this weekend if my budget allows for it (might have to skip on some meals, but whatever). Although I sometimes think I need to just save the cash and get some super16 lenses instead and save the hassle altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpy Posted June 13, 2013 Share Posted June 13, 2013 yeah mate, after hours checking forums and ebay the only thing i get is headache! And that is just to save a few euros. I can't help it... i'm always looking for the cheap, i always will! your 12-120 looks clear enough at 12mm. Could you please check if it vignettes when you focus to say 1,5m? (btw.. what is the minimun focus distance?). the 12-120 is a bit faster than the 10-100 too, that's a bonus there. Do you think is sharp enough full open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpy Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Got myself the kinor 10-100 zoom on ebay! Will have to wait for the pocket to try it though... and the adapter too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Essary Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Awesome, dude! I'm eager to see what kind of coverage that has. If you were in LA, I'd let you borrow my adapter.. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpy Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Thanks Shane! If that was Los Ãngeles, Spain I would be knocking your door now, but I suspect it is the one in America... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpy Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I just got the kinor 10-100 but.... [media]http://youtu.be/bIjUIuFMoQ4[/media] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Essary Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Essary Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Just as an aside, I now have 2 Kinor portcaps from both Raf Camera and ciecio7 to use with my Kinor 16 -> mft adapter. Both are perfectly functional. Raf's is a plain black knobby job, with logo stenciled on the knob, no-nonsense and utilitarian. The ciecio7 is a little heavier and has a neat little "slot" screw for orientation, feels a little heavier, and the knob is quite a bit fancier. If we want to use car analogies, the Raf is a Toyota or Honda, the ciecio7 is more like an lexus/acura, just a little more luxe. Both will get the job done. I'll try to put up some pics later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpy Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Anyone shooting with kinor+bmpcc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au8ust Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Has anyone else tried the Kinor 10-100 on BMPCC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpy Posted December 22, 2013 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I have! http://youtu.be/2NYmNkye3dI In the video I used all my Russian arsenal: - Kinor 16OPF-12-1 (10-100 zoom) - Metor 5-1 (17-69 zoom) - Mir11-M (12mm) - Vega7-1 (20mm) - Tair-41M (50mm) The opening shot and a few more was shot with the kinor zoom. Mines reads "2.9" on the ring as the fastest aperture, but I've seen other units with "2.8" on them. I presume that is the T number rather than the F, maybe? Of course, the lens says "2.5" on the barrel, so I think it is still f2.5. Wide open is quite "bloomy", the highlight bloom quite a lot. Anybody else using Kinors on the pocket? Shane Essary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Essary Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I have! http://youtu.be/2NYmNkye3dI In the video I used all my Russian arsenal: - Kinor 16OPF-12-1 (10-100 zoom) - Metor 5-1 (17-69 zoom) - Mir11-M (12mm) - Vega7-1 (20mm) - Tair-41M (50mm) The opening shot and a few more was shot with the kinor zoom. Mines reads "2.9" on the ring as the fastest aperture, but I've seen other units with "2.8" on them. I presume that is the T number rather than the F, maybe? Of course, the lens says "2.5" on the barrel, so I think it is still f2.5. Wide open is quite "bloomy", the highlight bloom quite a lot. Anybody else using Kinors on the pocket? I like. We may have discussed this before (maybe not?), but where did you get the adaptor for the Mir11-m? I just picked up the 15mm Kinor 16 glass, should be coming soon. I think that rounds out the low end of kinor for me once I finally get a camera to shoot on. I think (not sure) that the 15mm is the widest Kinor prime that won't vignette on the BMPCC. I will say, that more and more I think I'm just going to bite the bullet and take a short vow of poverty and save up for a set of Elite or Optar Illuminas for S16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpy Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The mir is a kiev mount lens. You just need to get the kiev 16u - mft adapter off ebay. Shane Essary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Essary Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Huh. Is that adaptor new? I swear I couldn't find one on ebay or if they even existed the last time I was looking for Kiev 16u adaptors... Not a bad price, either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timpy Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 its kind of new, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Essary Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Thanks for the info... once I get done buying my condo, I may have to look into this! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Essary Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Finally took my lenses/adapter up to Samy's on Fairfax over the weekend. Confirmed vignetting on 6mm fisheye, 10mm, and even a smidge of it on the 15mm. The 20mm and 25mm were both fine. The 10-100mm is pretty bad until you reach the mid-ranges. The 6mm definitely has a nice Terry Gilliam effect, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shijan Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 i find less expensive adapters http://rafcamera.com/en/adapters/kinor-16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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